Racial Bias in Accident claims

[dragstaar]

Right, Scenario:

Driving up a main road at night. Opposite lane has stationary traffic, with another row of parked cars on the kerbside.

Moped (not a pizza delivery guy) is filtering said lane (in the opposite direction to me), and as he passes a car, the car has stopped to let an addison lee mini cab out (this minicab was parked). The minicab sees the space, and wishes to join my lane, so continues to do a U-turn. Only thing is he does it with violent speed and swings out, smashes into the filtering moped. I see the entire thing.

I pull up blocking the minicab which is now across the road and blocking traffic. Moped rider has hobbled off to kerbside, before I could tell him not to move. I tell the minicab driver not to move the car. He proceeds to move it, and I get stern and almost shout at him not to move. I then take out the phone and continue to take photographs of the accident.

By now there is an ambulance with blues and twos on (by chance. But the ambulance hasn't reached us yet because of the traffic)

Now I realise the driver of the cab isn't on his own, and was actually being seen off by a huge group of friends/relatives. Driver and said relatives are Somalian.

The rider is now sitting in the road, clearly hurt, behind the minicab, Blocking the minicab from reversing into the gap and clearing the road. So one of the Somalian Buddies, literally drags him to the kerb. I went absolutely apeshit and screamed "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH HIM! LEAVE HIM THERE YOU FUCKING IDIOT! YOU'RE GOING TO HURT HIM!"

ambulance now reaches us, abandons their previous call after getting another ambulance on the case, and tells me they will deal with this accident.

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The issue:

I am asian, srilankan to be precise, and the moped rider looked indian. The big group of somalians started getting angry at me because I was taking photos and generally documenting the accident. I hear insults and people calling me a "filthy arab".

This pisses me off no end, but I don't rise to the bait.

My question is, I am more than willing to be a witness for the moped rider, but will my statement be weakened by the fact that I am a closer race to the indian moped rider? Can the Somalians play the race card? try and claim I must be related? Or that my witness statement is somehow unreliable as I will apparently be biased towards someone of closer racial background to myself? If they did will this have any effect whatsoever in court.

I couldn't believe the audacity of these people. The poor moped rider was in shock, and clearly hurt, and they're fucking dragging him around. I wanted to lamp them. They were getting really aggressive with me, telling me to go away and they'll deal with it etc. Saying that they weren't going to run away so i didn't need to give Mr Moped my details.

[Shaft]

[keggyhander]

As soon as Somalis get mentioned it will be cut and dried.

They're known as lying useless pieces of shit.

[Polarbear]

There quite a few mini cab companies where I live that has use Somali drivers. They are frightening!

I hate to stereotype and I presume they all have to have british licences to drive mini cabs, but they are mad/bad drivers. Maybe they are on such shit wages they have to drive like maniacs to make ends meet.

My wife used one and he started to use a mobile phone (no hands free) and when she asked him to stop she got a load of abuse and came home very upset. (she wouldn't tell me for ages which firm as she didn't want me going round there in case 'they killed me' )
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[tvr321]

No pirate ships involved?

[MarJay]

Chill out, you lend far more credibility to the story just by not being a white chav.
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[chris-red]

Bloody foreigners, coming over here crashing our mopeds.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

So long as you don't get wound up by the racist pieces of shit in your statement your race shouldn't make a difference. Your words/pictures will make a massive difference though so get your side of the story written up in an unbiased manner and passed onto the guy on the moped.

[Cheeseybeaner]

[st3v3]

I'd guess if I saw a welshman knock a scot's man off, being english wouldn't make me biased so no, I'd think you're safe.

With this day's racial equality(favouritism) I doubt it'll even be looked over.
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[Pete.]

Of course it doesn't matter what race you are - it's your statement that counts. So long as the moped was going less than 15mph which is what's regarded as a reasonable filtering speed then he's in the right and the onus was on the cab to check before making the maneuver.

You should have called the cops to the scene though, especially given that there was an injury, since they deal with injury accidents differently to non-injury ones. It should still be reported to them within 24 hrs, it's an offence not to.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Skudd]

Is it racist to think that there would be racism involved?
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[colin1]

You need to remember that generally, in the eyes of a white person, racism comes down to white and non-white, so you will not be suspected of being racist, as to a white person, you are non-white like the somalis.

They may not be thinking this at a conscious level, but they will be thinking this at a subconscious level, so no I dont think you will be suspected of being racist.
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[Andy_Pagin]

In most countries outside of Europe the decision of a judge would be based on the judges tribal loyalties and who offered the biggest bribe, in the UK we dumped that mentality about 500 years ago, the outcome will be based on the evidence. Don't worry, just state what you saw and heard.
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[dragstaar]

Thanks for all the replies guys.

First off, I didn't make it clear, The Police *were* called. They just hadn't arrived yet.

An Ambulance wasn't called as there was one passing by anyway.

Whether police turned up was another matter because I left as soon as the ambulance left because I didn't want to be left waiting around for cops amongst a whole load of racist and angry Somalis.

UPDATE****

The moped rider called me this morning. For some reason he left hospital without a full checkup because it was "only a bumped knee luckily". We didn't discuss the case or anything for obvious reasons, he was just calling to thank me and let me know he was okay.

But yeah, thanks for the replies, I'll just have to keep an eye out for witness statement letters etc. I shall keep you all updated.

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Straight, the somali drivers, for some reason do tend to be awful, and do tend to be hired by Addison Lee. Hopefully the driver owns up but I'm not hopeful.

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[Willson]

I had something like this last night. Had the missus on the back of the bike, but it was light outside and less traffic.

He starts to U-turn into my path, queue brown trousers, horn and brakes. I managed to stop, slow ride up to his window and tell him to "look before you move" and call him a fucking prat. I ride off, and he sat there as if to contemplate what he did wrong.

Taxi drivers are some of the worst drivers on the road... and they're out there more than most others.

Willson
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[Andy_Pagin]

I find for some reason the worst drivers seem to be those who drive black cars, I googled the psychology of the colour 'black' and hit this...

"Psychology of Color: Black

Black is the color of authority and power, stability and strength. It is also the color associated with intelligence (doctorate in black robe; black horn rimmed glasses, etc.) Black clothes make people appear thinner. It's a somber color sometimes associated with evil (the cowboy in the black hat was almost always the "bad guy"). In the western hemisphere black is associated with grieving. Black is a serious color that evokes strong emotions"

So, people who choose black cars crave power & authority, think they're smart-arses, and revel in feeling 'evil'. Explains a lot.
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