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adamcfc
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 04 Aug 2011    Post subject: CBR 125 problem .. still Reply with quote

Have a Honda CBR 125, its running rich as the plug indicates dry fouling, and the exhaust backfires flames on de-acceleration.

Checked the air filter and its okay, tried to adjust the mixture but found its covered with a tamper-proof metal casing?

The carb is hard to get to properly on the left side (which is where im told the mixture screw is), there are two phillips head screws that i believe hold the choke housing onto the carb, and then this casing im talking about. Its at the front (on the left side) where the carb connects to the induction valve.

Is this the mixture screw, and how can i adjust it?

Also, when i start the bike cold, it revs at about 4000 for about 6 seconds then drops down to the 1500 set idling speed, any ideas?


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PostPosted: 09:23 - 04 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it between 2004 and 2007?

Hand operated choke on the handle bar?
Known to stick very often... best thing to do is disconnect it, get it all cleaned up and lube the choke mechanism on the carb.

The mixture screw is behind a small cover, you need a very small drill to drill the casing off... but again, before you go toying with that (it more than probably doesnt need adjusting) check the choke
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 04 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah its a 2004 model, cheers guys.

So il undo the 2 screws holding it on the carb and make sure everythings sliding nicely and lubed up?

Is this causing the backfiring, or the high revs at startup, or both?

Adam
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 04 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamcfc wrote:
Yeah its a 2004 model, cheers guys.

So il undo the 2 screws holding it on the carb and make sure everythings sliding nicely and lubed up?

Is this causing the backfiring, or the high revs at startup, or both?

Adam


Its making it run rich, which would explain some popping.
My CBR did it anyway... upjetted slightly too high and until it was sorted it did the occasional pop pop when you went to 8k and let it drop Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there only me that would squirt a can of WD40 down the cable outer..? Shifty
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PostPosted: 05:16 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

3-in-1 oil would be better. Give the cable and choke mech a good slathering in oil.

If that appears well may be shite in the float bowl stopping the float needle closing which can cause the motor to flood.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah steve il try that, cheers.

The carb is just a right pig to get to, and i cant check the float bowl really without dismantling the carb?

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PostPosted: 08:29 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamcfc wrote:
Yeah steve il try that, cheers.

The carb is just a right pig to get to, and i cant check the float bowl really without dismantling the carb?

Adam


The carb is well simple to get to..

I say that, my one was missing fairings, so everything was easy to get to Laughing If you remove to two top panels, you can get to the jubilee clips holding the airbox and engine to the carb.

Just loosen them, dont remove. You will be able to swivel the carb round and it just pops out. The only painful bit of this process is if you have big hands...the airbox to carb pipe is a swine.

You able to get a photo of your spark plug? pop it out and post an image on here..see what colour it is Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems on mine the only way to get to it all is by removing the fuel tank which is a bi***.

There is the blue panels with the aur vent on? But on the left side the 2 bottom screws are rounded off so thats not coming off easily. So at the moment my only real access is my hands up above the engine up to the carb.

Im not going to be able to do anything until sunday, but il take a photo of the plug and upload it, although it is black.

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PostPosted: 08:58 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, i've gt the 04 one currently.
Dont worry about the tank, its one bugger to get back on!

You "can" get to the carb once the plastic dress is off. I'll hunt a picture of my CBR for you... if you can call it that Laughing

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PostPosted: 22:22 - 06 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Paddy, a pictures just what i need Smile

Although my dad asked a garage today, and they said the backfiring was because the standard air box had not been upgraded after adding the race can?

Does this sound plausible?

Adam
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 07 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tank is pretty easy to get off. Just make sure you disconnect the plug for the fuel level sensor, make a note of where the fuel and vacuum hoses connect to, then instead of trying to remove the breather and overflow hoses from the tank, which is a total bitch, just pull them out from the frame as you remove the tank. They aren't fixed by anything so it's pretty easy.

Then when you put the tank back on just re-route the hoses back through the frame. It makes the job dead simple.
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PostPosted: 01:33 - 07 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamcfc wrote:
Cheers Paddy, a pictures just what i need Smile

Although my dad asked a garage today, and they said the backfiring was because the standard air box had not been upgraded after adding the race can?

Does this sound plausible?

Adam
There's plenty of little bikes/peds had different cans put on and not had airbox or filter changed and it's done them no harm. Did they offer to sort it out, for a small fee? Wink

I'd guess if the airbox was the problem then the bike would run sluggish due to not enough air.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 07 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamcfc wrote:
Cheers Paddy, a pictures just what i need Smile

Although my dad asked a garage today, and they said the backfiring was because the standard air box had not been upgraded after adding the race can?

Does this sound plausible?

Adam


Probably not..

I have everything standard and a completely open venom can and pipe. Its running rich with a black plug.. its definitely worth checking your air filter, but a can on a CBR will not affect it much Thumbs Up
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