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PostPosted: 16:17 - 03 Aug 2011    Post subject: URGENT UPDATE - Quick MOT questions Reply with quote

Hate asking dumb questions Laughing

Basically 0l0dom0l0 has been a gem and sent me a 110 70 17 tyre for the rear of my 125.

Thing is... its a Bridgstone BT***F (dont know the model) Does the F mean front.. If so should I remove it from the tyre or leave it? Its a tubed rim a tubeless tyre, bare in mind this is just to get a years ticket on it.. its not being used all the time...rough weather/winter etc...

Also, in terms of rust... general surface rust is alright yeah? I've never really had an MOT on any bike.. never had them long enough Laughing

Everything else works, lights, plate is legal, horn I will double check... but the engine has just been rebuilt.. so hoping it lives Laughing

The rear shock isnt "bouncy" its pretty stiff but does compress etc, is there a set limit?


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PostPosted: 17:45 - 03 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i took the bike in for a leaky tyre seal, he put a tube in the tubless tyre. He MOT'd it at the same time no probs. HTH
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 03 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

At a guess, Bridgestone battlax BT45F?

In which case, yes it's a front and no it shouldn't pass its MOT with a front tyre on the rear.

That said, this is assuming they notice.

It's fine with a tube in though.

Another point. If it's a BT45, it's a bias belted tyre. It's flat-out illegal to have a bias belt rear with a radial front. This more than anything would fail an MOT so if the front is a radial and the rear is a BT45, it's illegal. If there is an 'R' in the size code of the front tyre, it's a radial (eg 90/90R17).
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 03 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
At a guess, Bridgestone battlax BT45F?

In which case, yes it's a front and no it shouldn't pass its MOT with a front tyre on the rear.

That said, this is assuming they notice.

It's fine with a tube in though.

Another point. If it's a BT45, it's a bias belted tyre. It's flat-out illegal to have a bias belt rear with a radial front. This more than anything would fail an MOT so if the front is a radial and the rear is a BT45, it's illegal. If there is an 'R' in the size code of the front tyre, it's a radial (eg 90/90R17).


Not a BT45 for definite...

In fact... cant recall what it is.. might not even be a bridgestone.. a quick FB brings me this image https://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/281517_10150250987097167_598102166_7831582_2179077_n.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 03 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont think thats bridgestone, looks more like a pirelli tread pattern

could be wrong
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 03 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

tell a lie 99% sure its bridgestone bt 020
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 03 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Fzs wrote:
same pattern as the battlax 020 on the front of my fazer


boom, thought i was right Cool
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Righhhhhhhhht.

I was unaware the tyre says front use only Laughing Can I remove this with a bit of skill and attempt to get it through the MOT. If so what methods?

Its only to get a years MOT on it, then its getting its more offroad tyres put back on.
Also its a 110 70 R 17
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't an R on the tyre sidewall mean "Radial"?, for the construction type?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code#Explanation_of_tire_codes
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbot wrote:
Doesn't an R on the tyre sidewall mean "Radial"?, for the construction type?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code#Explanation_of_tire_codes


Yes, sorry just clarifying for Stinkwheel.

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Must NOT have radial tyres on the front wheels and cross ply tyres on the rear wheels, it is also illegal to have a cross ply tyre on one side with a radial on the other.


I take it me having a rear radial is fine then? I think the front is cross ply... Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they're different constructions (ie, one radial, one cross ply), it should fail, I believe
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbot wrote:
If they're different constructions (ie, one radial, one cross ply), it should fail, I believe


My old bike had a BT45 front and Avon rear
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

a) those are different manufacturers, not necessarily different construction types and
b) *should*, not "will".

It's actually potentially quite dangerous. Back when I were a kid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c23MFIKiVdE

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PostPosted: 11:53 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbot wrote:
a) those are different manufacturers, not necessarily different construction types and
b) *should*, not "will".

It's actually potentially quite dangerous. Back when I were a kid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c23MFIKiVdE

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Sorry, hit enter too fast.

Im sure the tyre place said they were mixed. I never noticed any ill effects?
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbot wrote:
If they're different constructions (ie, one radial, one cross ply), it should fail, I believe


Radial rear and radial, bias belted or cross ply front is fine. Bias belted rear is fine with a bias belted or cross ply front.

Some bikes have been sold new with radial rears and cross ply fronts as standard fitment.

Paddy - your front tyre should fail the MOT I think, and if you try and chop away the marking showing it to be a front tyre they might just fail it for the damage.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:26 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just being picky now.. but whats the difference between the front and rear fitment... does it really affect it that much?

I could POSSIBLY get a 100 80 17 from my CBR on the back... but thats major effort Laughing


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PostPosted: 13:37 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Direction of the tread pattern mainly I think. But also the plies inside the tyre might be different.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:30 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen people skim off 'not for road' use from a motocross tyre to use it for greenlaning etc.
Do it carefully and it's hardly noticeable, it would seem!
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I've seen people skim off 'not for road' use from a motocross tyre to use it for greenlaning etc.
Do it carefully and it's hardly noticeable, it would seem!


Like, i'll try getting rid of it... any idea what the best way to go about it is?
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 05 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its all rubbed off... tyre looks normal Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 12 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes going in for MOT in like half hour... shall let you know the outcome..

I have ridden it up and down the road, figured insuring it would be safer than doing nothing at all Laughing Handles ok, the rear tyre went on ok being a 110 70 rather than a 100 90.

Unsure of what pressures to run, front felt squishy at 30psi.. maybe im used to riding a sports bike with solid suspension...but the front was a little soft Laughing

Hoping it passes, they passed my "CBR" with wires everywhere, looked terrible, had angle grinder marks over the front and bodged cables... Obviously sending my bike to the same place Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 12 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Failed.

Left handle grip loose.
Shock pivot mount siezed.
Rear tyre incorrect spec.

The handle grip is sorted, the shock has been removed and greased/cleaned and reinstalled. Now for the rear tyre Laughing
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