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PostPosted: 22:19 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Recommend a (cheapish) degreaser? Reply with quote

I have used methylated spirits many times before and its really good at getting rid of grease and gunk. White spirit works as well.

But some people say that they leave a bare sort of surface on the metal and apparently white spirits can strip the paint over a long time.

Anyone use turps?

Dad reckons paraffin is good because it has an oily texture but I can't find it anywhere for cheapish! Looking at £40 for 5 litres?!

Can anyone recommend a degreaser that is good that wont harm too much and is fairly cheap? I would rather it be chuck it on a rag sort of thing instead of dilute it in a bottle and spray it on but any recommendations would be appreciated Smile

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PostPosted: 22:24 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paraffin isnt that expensive. I got mine from Homebase (under kerosene or something) for £5 for 4L.

Probably one of the best degreasers it is. Shame you're not closer. You'd be welcome to a bottle full.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, heard of kerosene to!

Guessing its the same stuff.

Homebase it is tomorrow then Mr. Green (actually I prefer B&Q) Razz
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Recommend a (cheapish) degreaser? Reply with quote

As above - paraffin.

Sold as lamp fuel in B+Q and homebase - also look for parasene, a brand name of paraffin. Don't get anything with a lemon scent Wink .


In a pinch diesel isn't bad, petrol is a bit harsh but works VERY well.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

wd40 is good
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sugar soap is pretty good and it's as cheap as chips.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing is diesel, petrol and wd are all expensive haha. Well not that bad for the fuels actually if you think about it. £1.20 for a litre is good actually thinking about it. But a bit too flammable for my liking.

And Donny I think I'm missing the joke Confused Sad
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got one of those 1ltr plant sprayers. Loaded with paraffin..rags underneath the offending area and blast away. Toothbrush to loosen.
It removes tar and burnt-on oil on exhausts pretty good.
Wash off with cheap car shampoo.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Got one of those 1ltr plant sprayers. Loaded with paraffin..rags underneath the offending area and blast away. Toothbrush to loosen.
It removes tar and burnt-on oil on exhausts pretty good.
Wash off with cheap car shampoo.


On its own? Or as in water and in a bucket? Confused
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stuff.


This man's Ducati is depressingly clean, so I reckon he's on to something. Or he's two-timing the truth with a valeting service.

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PostPosted: 00:21 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On its own? Or as in water and in a bucket?
Capfull of car shampoo to half a bucket of water.
Car shampoo doesn't contain the abrasive stuff found in washing up liquid....so they say.


Y'know what they say about a clean bike..clean bike=filthy mind.
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
...filthy mind.


I don't think that was ever in question Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrtEE wrote:
wd40 is good


Is good, if not better than parrafin for road grim, but not for oily stuff.

Also it's not cheap
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Recommend a (cheapish) degreaser? Reply with quote

HD wrote:
Dad reckons paraffin is good because it has an oily texture but I can't find it anywhere for cheapish! Looking at £40 for 5 litres?!


B&Q, 4 litres, £7.

https://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9415188
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
mrtEE wrote:
wd40 is good


Is good, if not better than parrafin for road grim, but not for oily stuff.

Also it's not cheap


Works very well for me to remove chain oil from a swingarm, never had any issues with it. Also its fairly cheap if you buy a 5 litre container from ebay.

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PostPosted: 10:46 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB250RS wrote:
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On its own? Or as in water and in a bucket?
Capfull of car shampoo to half a bucket of water.
Car shampoo doesn't contain the abrasive stuff found in washing up liquid....so they say.


Y'know what they say about a clean bike..clean bike=filthy mind.


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Abrasives in washing up liquid. Don't make me laugh. If it was abrasive it would be opaque.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a 5 litre bottle of Parasene fuel from Homebase, same as pinkyfloyd. I use an old Muc-Off bottle as a sprayer and toothbrush\washing up brush to work into heavily soiled places. Then wash off with water and use Muc-Off or similar to wash off the residue.

My only problem with paraffin and kerosene products is how stinky they are. You end up smelling like an arsonist with palsy.

For brakes, electronics or other bits that need a high flash point cleaner I bought a 5 litre can of isopropyl alchohol from fleabay. I use that to top up a little 100ml pump spray.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Washing-up liquid is a powerful cleaner and degreaser, but the problem with it is that it contains Sodium Chloride (salt) which is used to add to the viscosity. It may also contain amonia.

Salt makes water a better conductor of electricity and because the process of oxidization is an electrical process, the addition of salt to your car’s bodywork speeds up this process. Oxidization is bad for both your paintwork and metalwork.

Washing-up liquid may also contain other chemicals such as solvents, surfactants, colourings and preservatives which may be fine for your dishes and hands, but may not be so good for your car.


You forced me to do it keggy Mr. Green

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PostPosted: 11:51 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB250RS wrote:
Pedant mode:

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Washing-up liquid is a powerful cleaner and degreaser, but the problem with it is that it contains Sodium Chloride (salt) which is used to add to the viscosity. It may also contain amonia.

Salt makes water a better conductor of electricity and because the process of oxidization is an electrical process, the addition of salt to your car’s bodywork speeds up this process. Oxidization is bad for both your paintwork and metalwork.

Washing-up liquid may also contain other chemicals such as solvents, surfactants, colourings and preservatives which may be fine for your dishes and hands, but may not be so good for your car.


You forced me to do it keggy Mr. Green

(I am unable to carry on this discussion as i have a festival to go to Very Happy )


Oh, how this Industrial Chemist laughed.

Does you seriously think that washing a vehicle with Fairy causes scratches by rubbing it with salt crystals?

Fucking Facepalm!
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH running a meth lab doesn't make you an industrial chemist Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

HD wrote:
And Donny I think I'm missing the joke Confused Sad



You can get citronella "flavour" lamp fuel, makes the lamp burn a lemony smell that keeps insects away from your garden party - don't use this on your bike Wink .


c-m wrote:
mrtEE wrote:
wd40 is good


Is good, if not better than parrafin for road grim, but not for oily stuff.

Also it's not cheap


The reason WD40 is good at cleaning is because it is mostly white spirit and light oil. If you just used white spirit it would clean just as well at a fraction of the price. As it happens I still prefer paraffin as it is safe on painted surfaces and rubber.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:


You can get citronella "flavour" lamp fuel, makes the lamp burn a lemony smell that keeps insects away from your garden party - don't use this on your bike Wink .



Does it not work with bikes then? Boo!!! Sick of the flies splattered on my headlight Crying or Very sad

keggyhander wrote:
Oh, how this Industrial Chemist laughed.

Does you seriously think that washing a vehicle with Fairy causes scratches by rubbing it with salt crystals?

Fucking Facepalm!


OK, so what about the fact that washing up liquid contains certain ingredients such as limonene and linalool, both of which are included in the makeup of paint stripper?
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrtEE wrote:

Works very well for me to remove chain oil from a swingarm, never had any issues with it. Also its fairly cheap if you buy a 5 litre container from ebay.

Cool


Aye it will work well, but it's not AS good as paraffin for the chain. £15 isn't cheap. If you find it cheaper, let me know as i need some Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

lozzypop1 wrote:
keggyhander wrote:
Oh, how this Industrial Chemist laughed.

Does you seriously think that washing a vehicle with Fairy causes scratches by rubbing it with salt crystals?


OK, so what about the fact that washing up liquid contains certain ingredients such as limonene and linalool, both of which are included in the makeup of paint stripper?


You're grasping desperately at straws matey.

Only one of them strips paint, and it only lifts paint off wood.

It won't touch automotive paint and lacquer, and certainly not in the trace amounts used to give scent to a bottle of fairy.

I'll reiterate:

Some people really didn't ought,
to talk about that which they know nought.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am confused now, because my kids used fairy liquid to wash my car (many years ago) and it covered it in those tiny little scratches that you can only see in a certain light. Could've been dropping the cloth on the floor but they claimed not... I've never used fairy liquid since just in case.
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