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GhostRider
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Opinions on this bike + Q about Cat C Reply with quote

So I'm hungry to buy a new bike within the next week, after searching relentlessly it seems my ideal bike, the GSXR750, is way overpriced throughout the market.

With that in mind I started looking at other bikes, and came across this Honda Fireblade:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201131408482030/sort/priceasc/usedbikes/seller-type/trade_adverts/cc-from/800cc/price-from/1000/model/cbr/make/honda/radius/100/page/1/postcode/b152lw?logcode=p

1998, 16k miles, but mentions that it was listed as Cat C in 2008, so I am assuming that since it has an MOT till May 2012 that it's been restored/repaired and is in good working condition. I'll have to wait till Tuesday to call them up and ask what was wrong with it as they don't mention this in the advert, but I'm guessing it was just cosmetic, though I don't think there's anything obvious.

So, firstly, is that a decent price for that age/miles/condition? (As it would appear my idea of a good price is way off!).

Secondly, just to clarify, a Cat C I don't have to mention on insurance? And shouldn't cost me anymore on insurance right?

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PostPosted: 17:17 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the best of the 'blades for all round reliability and street use, but, the price is way over the top for a declared Cat C. It has most of the toys except for a 17'' front wheel. Keep looking on E-Bay, a far better deal will turn up.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ill do you a nice blade r reg simular miles £1600 and its never been a write off edit: its been cleaned since these pics..lol
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/mad4it028/SDC10337.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid 2000 for my 98 blade in the same colours, 15000 miles, FSH, double bubble screen, Remus can, braided hoses and with 12 months MOT & TAX. That is far too much money for that bike.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the last few weeks I have also been looking like a mad man for the perfect bike in £1500 price range.
I've been looking at blades, GSXR750's, ZX9's and ZX7's. I've test rode a few ZX9's now and im sold on it. 1998-on and you cant go wrong.

Been watching loads on ebay, look at this one, reserve not met, 2000 plate, 18k £1550 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250878058451?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Thats no money for a bike like that, spoke to the seller and wanted £1800
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mad4it028 wrote:
ill do you a nice blade r reg simular miles £1600 and its never been a write off edit: its been cleaned since these pics..lol


Sure, if you take mastercard? Part-exchange for a hornet??

Certainly been a learning curve here with regards as to whats a good price and what's not.

So what's the top price you'd pay for the blade in the OP?

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PostPosted: 21:15 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems like an honest bike at an honest price. If you can establish what sort of accident it was in in order to ascertain the damage. My 929 blade was a CAT C when it was lowsided by the previous owner in 05. LHS needed repairing when I asked him. What I didn't know was that the crankcase took a knock and had to be weld repaired and only found that out when I replaced the generator.

At that sort of mileage, ask when the valves were last checked however. "Some Service History" ought to cover recent services, and at 16k, valves would have definitely needed a looking at. If not, use it as a bargaining chip. If you have a mechanically competent friend, then an afternoon with the rocker cover off and feeler gauges should let you know if you need your shims replacing. It should be about £200 at an independent with an oil and filter change.

Remus can is a bonus - baffles are in so it's road legal. But they are sturdy and very well made (I got a Titanium remus innovation on my 929).

Hetzer used to have a 918 blade so he might be able to fill you on on the niggles and nuances.

Price is about right for a 98 superbike class - once you get beyond a certain time period, depreciation's already gone, and the effect of it being a CAT C doesn't make a bit of difference to price - mileage and condition, however, does.

And no, you don't need to tell insurers that the bike is a CAT C.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tot wrote:
. LHS needed repairing when I asked him. What I didn't know was that the crankcase took a knock and had to be weld repaired and only found that out when I replaced the generator.

Is that not a classic reason not to buy a cat c?? Plenty of honest bikes out there that aint registered - unless something was absolutely dirt cheap I wouldnt consider write offs
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just going to leave this one here Wink

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR-929-RRY-Fireblade-2000-model-14760-miles-/320749568971?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4aae2a03cb#ht_1628wt_1139
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

0l0dom0l0 wrote:


Good god, where did they get the can from, a dustbin factory? Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the standard can, just sprayed black, probably what kept Micron in business replacing them.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a bit of luck I'll be collecting the keys for mad4its fireblade tomorrow Very Happy

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PostPosted: 16:31 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
With a bit of luck I'll be collecting the keys for mad4its fireblade tomorrow Very Happy

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dont do it he's unorganised youll run out of fuel on the test ride and he'll have to rescue you in the van ,you have been warned....lol
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mad4it028 wrote:
GhostRider wrote:
With a bit of luck I'll be collecting the keys for mad4its fireblade tomorrow Very Happy

GhostRider


dont do it he's unorganised youll run out of fuel on the test ride and he'll have to rescue you in the van ,you have been warned....lol


Don't forget the idle throttle cable! Laughing

That I'm writing this post tells you I made it home without fault, or police intervention for that matter (bitch at the post office wouldn't sell me a tax disc without the full printed out papers).

The bikes a beaut, smooth as anything at 90 on the motorway, could easily feel that it wasn't even straining at that speed and had plenty more left in her, if anything it seemed to be less smooth at 50/60 and insisted on going faster. Well happy with it though mate so cheers Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 18:48 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

great glad your happy but was the idle screw cable not throttle cable lol i swear paul undid it the wrong way otherwise the spring wouldnt have been there after your test ride...lol
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You done did buyed you the best bike, like, EVAR.

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PostPosted: 14:29 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

they 'fake' usd forks??^^^^^^^^^^
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^No. They do look practical for a superbike tho.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiftb38 wrote:
they 'fake' usd forks??^^^^^^^^^^


Do such things exist? Confused

The '97 Fireblade, the bike the '98 R1 tried to match.......and failed. Cool
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
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they 'fake' usd forks??^^^^^^^^^^


Do such things exist? Confused

The '97 Fireblade, the bike the '98 R1 tried to match.......and failed. Cool


Just looks like theyve been designed to have the 'look' of usd's but they are conventional forks arent they?
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've lost me, blud.

They are USD's. Look at the top yoke, you can see the chrome of the stansion.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
You've lost me, blud.

They are USD's. Look at the top yoke, you can see the chrome of the stansion.


there not usd (up side down forks) usd have the chrome at bottem
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PostPosted: 03:14 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Opinions on this bike + Q about Cat C Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
Opinions on this bike


i looked at the pictures.

but i cannot see any onions

.... sorry just taking the p

{edit) that dont even work ....its late i cant sleep

https://www.MyspaceImageCodes.net/images/90191images.jpeg

what happened with the bike in the end. is it going good
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PostPosted: 06:18 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mad4it028 wrote:
Minty wrote:
You've lost me, blud.

They are USD's. Look at the top yoke, you can see the chrome of the stansion.


there not usd (up side down forks) usd have the chrome at bottem


Doh!
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mad4it028 wrote:
Minty wrote:
You've lost me, blud.

They are USD's. Look at the top yoke, you can see the chrome of the stansion.


there not usd (up side down forks) usd have the chrome at bottem


yep there conventional rightwayup forks - what i was getting at is that it looks like honda have designed the lower fork leg to give the effect of it 'looking' like a usd fork design for a more racier look at less cost? Thumbs Up
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