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Fifteen15
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Just had my first ride out - few questions Reply with quote

Just had my first ride out on the SV650. It was awesome! But I have a few questions.

1. Which part of the road do you tend to ride on? The middle of the road or the right side where the right car tires run over.

2. Why do some bikers give sideways nods? I found this very strange lol

3. I'm on a restricted SV650, but I don't think it's restricted! I got my rev limiter to the red line, surely it should stop before that? It has an ECU 33 restrictor plugged in and I took the full power ECU out. Is there any way to check without going 100+ mph?

4. The SV was surprisingly uncomfortable. I'm 6 foot, so not too lanky, not too short, but after 2 hours my wrists and back in particular were very sore. I'm guessing I will get used to it? Since I don't really use these muscles much.
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll do my best.


1. Which part of the road do you tend to ride on? The middle of the road or the right side where the right car tires run over.

Your taught to ride in the centre of your lane. Normally I ride a little closer to the right side for 2 reasons. 1, gives me a better view up the road, 2, its cleaner and offers slightly more grip than the unused middle of the lane.

2. Why do some bikers give sideways nods? I found this very strange lol

The biker nod. Dont ask.... Simple answer is some bikers will nod other bikers. Nod back and feel welcomed into the family that is biker. Some bikers dont nod. The threads been covered to death on the forum and it normally ends up bad. Accept that bikers is a vast community full of friends you dont know. Its a acknowledgment of a shared passion.

3. I'm on a restricted SV650, but I don't think it's restricted! I got my rev limiter to the red line, surely it should stop before that? It has an ECU 33 restrictor plugged in and I took the full power ECU out. Is there any way to check without going 100+ mph?

Pass.... I know nothing about the restrictions of the bikes.

4. The SV was surprisingly uncomfortable. I'm 6 foot, so not too lanky, not too short, but after 2 hours my wrists and back in particular were very sore. I'm guessing I will get used to it? Since I don't really use these muscles much.

You'll get used to it. Try and keep the weight off your wrists more. Theres a knack to the forward riding position where you support a good part of your upper body weight with your lower back. Means adjusting your riding position a little. Try riding with your arms slightly bent at the elbows so your forearms are more parallel to the ground. All these new muscles will strengthen over time.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to generally ride not far left of the centre line. This changes for bends, to give myself as much view ahead as possible. So for right hand bends I might be pretty far to the left, and for left hand I will be pretty far to the right. You should differ your road position for different scenarios, such as to be seen easier by other road users when approaching junctions etc, or to give yourself a better view for an overtake.

If you want to learn about the SV650 go over to SV650.org, they are a good bunch of lads and theres a hell of a lot of information on your bike over there.

Like pinky says about the nod, don't worry about it its a massive topic. You can nod, wave, thumbs up, peace sign, foot out blah blah, Ive even seen a few salutes!
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

A restricted bike will hit the redline in say 1st and second no problem at all. 5th and 6th it won't as that would require a 100mph+ speed which the bike isn't powerful enough to do.

Basically it's a power restriction, not a rev's restriction. In the lower gears less power is needed to get you up to the maximum speed achievable in that gear (redline+)
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Road, I sit between half way and 3/4.. more towards the centre line.. but not if you get me.

Sideways nods.. if im going past you at 70 a quick flick is all I ever do.. nod is a nod bro Laughing

Find empty straight road at night, pin it in 5th... can you go past 100 easy? An SV should indicate a happy 130 anyway. Restricted I'd be looking a genuine 95-100.

Uncomfortable. You were probably gripping tight.. it will ease up as you ride more, use your legs/knees to hold you, not your wrists. Trust me.. you'll feel better soon Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
I tend to generally ride not far left of the centre line. This changes for bends, to give myself as much view ahead as possible. So for right hand bends I might be pretty far to the left, and for left hand I will be pretty far to the right. You should differ your road position for different scenarios, such as to be seen easier by other road users when approaching junctions etc, or to give yourself a better view for an overtake.


This Rolling Eyes .... I tend to ride between the centre of my lane and the white line...if I see a truck or bus coming towards me I move to the middle of my lane and then back again when safe, if I am approaching a junction to my left and a car is waiting I move out to the white line (if safe to do so) to make myself easier for the car driver to see...
as Villers says change your position in the road to give you an advantage and to suit individual situations, blindly riding dead centre without a thought for what's going on around you is how "most" car drivers drive.

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PostPosted: 20:39 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all over the road...Wherever gives me the safest view or best grip. Same corner will be approached differently under different conditions.

Make yourself relax. Holding on too tight and in the wrong position i.e elbows too high will make the aches start sooner. Hold the tank with your thighs..grip it when braking or in sidewinds.

Can't answer the ECU question, but if i could..... i'd say find a private road and pin it. The world goes all fuzzy after 130....so i'm told.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB250RS wrote:
The world goes all fuzzy after 130....so i'm told.


you know the old saying "life begins at 40.....but it doesn't get interesting until 130"


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PostPosted: 21:42 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting after 130! i hit 130 the other day for the first time except it didnt feel that on the bike it felt more like 200, my arse tightened as i passed cars doing 80 like i was overtaking them parked, i tried to get more after but only managed 125 and chickened out.


but!! ive only been riding for 3 weeks on cat a

now i know teflon mike is gunna have to say something (waits patiently)
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frost wrote:
A restricted bike will hit the redline in say 1st and second no problem at all. 5th and 6th it won't as that would require a 100mph+ speed which the bike isn't powerful enough to do.

Basically it's a power restriction, not a rev's restriction. In the lower gears less power is needed to get you up to the maximum speed achievable in that gear (redline+)


Are you sure about that?

33bhp at 6000rpm is 33bhp at 6000rpm regardless of gear. The engine speed at which the engine produces power won't change with what gear you have selected.

If you really want to test it, take it for a power run on a dyno, usually fairly cheap too.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
I tend to generally ride not far left of the centre line. This changes for bends, to give myself as much view ahead as possible. So for right hand bends I might be pretty far to the left, and for left hand I will be pretty far to the right. You should differ your road position for different scenarios, such as to be seen easier by other road users when approaching junctions etc, or to give yourself a better view for an overtake.


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i tend to use the middle of my lane to just left of it,until corners
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:


My B6 redlined in the lower gears, but wouldn't go over 8k in top, leaving it sitting at ~90mph.


I believe that is more to do with torque, or the lack of it, than power. The engine won't be able to produce the torque while restricted to carry the additional load of top gear over 1st etc.

You'll need more torque in top gear to get to redline, getting to the red line in the short early gears requires much less torque.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
Frost wrote:
A restricted bike will hit the redline in say 1st and second no problem at all. 5th and 6th it won't as that would require a 100mph+ speed which the bike isn't powerful enough to do.

Basically it's a power restriction, not a rev's restriction. In the lower gears less power is needed to get you up to the maximum speed achievable in that gear (redline+)


Are you sure about that?

33bhp at 6000rpm is 33bhp at 6000rpm regardless of gear. The engine speed at which the engine produces power won't change with what gear you have selected.

If you really want to test it, take it for a power run on a dyno, usually fairly cheap too.


I think what Frost is saying is that at higher speeds the bike will not have the power to overcome the air resistance generated by the speed. Therefore at lower speeds it will red line, but run out of puff at higher speeds with greater resistance...
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 02 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hit 130 in my car the first week I had it, curse you sound proofing.

Private road, obviously.
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