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 Chriss World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 11:49 - 06 Sep 2011 Post subject: Stuck Engine Bolt |
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Hi all,
I've got a stuck engine bolt on my K3 GS500e. The bolt itself is siezed. I can get the nut off, but when I tried to remove the bolt, the head just sheered off.
Has anyone got any ideas as to how I can remove the rest of this bolt, short of dropping the engine out and hitting it with a hammer?
Thanks
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| MarJay |
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 MarJay But it's British!

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 Posted: 11:57 - 06 Sep 2011 Post subject: Re: Stuck Engine Bolt |
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| Chriss wrote: | Hi all,
I've got a stuck engine bolt on my K3 GS500e. The bolt itself is siezed. I can get the nut out, but when I tried to remove the bolt, the head just sheered off.
Has anyone got any ideas as to how I can remove the rest of this bolt, short of dropping the engine out and hitting it with a hammer?
Thanks
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Have you tried taking the shear pressure off of the bolt by placing a jack under the engine? The next thing I might try is if possible try to cut a slot in the remainder of the bolt with a dremel or similar to see if I can get a large screwdriver in there. Otherwise the next step would be to try easy outs or something (often called 'reverse taps') and then the next step after that would be to drill it out. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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| P.addy |
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 P.addy Red Rocket
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 Posted: 11:59 - 06 Sep 2011 Post subject: |
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Support the engine with a jack and try to punch it out with a hammer and your least fave screwdriver?
My dad has an old rasp file with a broken end for jobs like this
Upon reading MarJays post... does the screw thread through the engine or does the nut just do up on the threaded area? I cant recall on my GS500 whether it was a long threaded bolt... |
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 Posted: 12:05 - 06 Sep 2011 Post subject: |
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Had to remove a Hornet one like this a couple of weeks ago. Only way to shift it was drill an 8mm hole down the middle. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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 Chriss World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 12:24 - 06 Sep 2011 Post subject: |
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I put a jack under the engine anyway to try and make it easier to get the bolt off. The jack is still there.
Paddy, here's a picture of the fische, which may answer you question, since I didn't understand it
https://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3528/gs500enginebolt.png
Upon looking again, the bolt's sheered half way through the frame, so I cannot get at it to dremmel and the engine wouldn't drop anyway.
Have tried hitting with a hammer and screw drive with no joy, literally. My poor hand.
Pete. When you say drill the engine bolt, I'd be worried about not getting it perfect and making the hole oval. Also, it'd have to be a hell of a size drill bit to go all the way through.  ____________________ TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old. |
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 Posted: 12:32 - 06 Sep 2011 Post subject: |
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Bigger hammer Park the bike against a wall and jack the engine up a little. Dont worry about the bike falling as its against the wall, just fuck that bolt and give him some serious stick  |
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Looks bent to me from your picture.
You might be able to get a junior hacksaw between the engine lug and the spacer (part #28) and cut the bolt into three bits. Then you're just left with the bit in the engine lug (which is probably where it's seized).
A 50:50 mix of ATF and paraffin makes a good penetrating fluid.
A proper drift or a long bolt is better than a screwdriver. Make sure the face of it is filed perfectly square so you can do maximum whaling.
Had a similar problem with my mainstand bolt on the VFR and landed up drilling the bugger out in the end. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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 Posted: 13:10 - 06 Sep 2011 Post subject: |
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Hi
To add to the suggestions above, if the nut is in reasonable condition put it back on (possibly with a washer or 2 underneath as spacers) and tighten it up hard. Hopefully there is enough thread for it to pull the bolt across slightly. However it might well just strip the thread on the nut.
Probably worth using decent penetrating fluid (ie, not WD40), plus heat (blowtorch) and cold (freeze spray) to try and free things off a bit first.
All the best
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Great. My super reliable transport to get me to university is fucked.
I've tried drilling it, but it's made a small indentation where the drill is now it just spins, not going any deeper.
I've tried hacksawing it, but whatever cheap crap this is made from is pretty damn tough, breaking five hacksaw blades. Probably got more to do with the stupid angle I'm working at though.
Used Plus Gas, Freeze and Release and a blow torch, which set the bike alight for a second, which made me laugh, until it stopped burning.
Can I just add, when Hyosung claim they make parts for Suzuki, I believe them
What's caused all this is moving engine bars from a 1994 GS500 onto a 2003 GS500. The 1994 saw more of winter than the 2003 one, but any such problems? Oh no!
Anyone near Harrow fix this for me?  ____________________ TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old. |
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This is the exact drill bit I bought and these are the hacksaw blades that I have.
I've no idea as to what either are made of. ____________________ TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old. |
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Is the bike rideable? and do you have a replacment bolt?
If so let me know and bring it over to my workshop and l,ll get it out, owe you a favour for getting that KLR part for me.  ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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Use plus gas, lots of it & find someone like me works in the aerospace industry who has access to a 7X rivet gun. It'll scare the bolt out just by walking towards the bike with it.  ____________________ I am me & you are he & we are all together. See how they run like pigs from a gun! |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 52 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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