Sold a bike, 2 days later buyer not happy..... advice

[GhostRider]

So I sold my Hornet the other day. Like a twat through eBay, I'd put it up through "buy-it-now or best offer" basis. I should have gone with classified I know but it's too late now.

Anyway, guy messages me, we haggle, agree on a price, he pays deposit into my account, then comes to collect the bike on Tuesday. Gives it a good looking over, tested gears, suspension etc says yeah ok, hands over the cash, fills out the paperwork, and rides it off into the sunset.

Then this morning I get this message:

[Polarbear]

I don't think Paypal can take any money that wasn't paid through paypal, but you can always stop the paypal direct debit and close your account if you want to play safe.

Anyway, he came, inspected and paid for the bike, his problem now.
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[Kris]

You're a mug for even replying to the twat.

I had this once when I sold the 9R. Guy phones me up hours later and claims he's not a happy bunny as the chain snapped on the way home. My response? "Sold as seen chum".

Fucking cocksucker. Buyer beware - he checked the condition before handing over the moolah. Too late to start checking it now mmkay! Nob.
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[The Artist]

Paypal will only take the money paid through them if they feel it is necessary.

[mad4it028]

i say you have a chancer on your hands you gave him every chance to inspect the bike before he took it , your not a dealer so have to offer no garentee or refund sold as seen
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[robbieguy2003]

If being cautious, transfer any money from paypal to your bank account now, then remove the direct debit through online banking.

I hate cretins like this and wish you the best of luck, have you got any recent pictures of your bike? perhaps the ones that you put on ebay? are they a decent resolution? if his pictures look wildly different to the ones you took to sell it then chances are he's broke it.

As above though, it's sold as seen. Him saying a clutch is faulty that's got you around for years is horseshit, it wouldn't suddenly go on him and for cracked panels/sidestand issues etc, just screams of blagger.

I can't see why you'd buy a fully functional bike and immediately proceed to strip it to pieces with no mechanical knowhow. You'd at least ride the thing for a bit, find out it's problems and form a plan of what does/doesn't need doing. The guy sounds like a knob so hopefully you'll do ok.

If you have his postal address and have the use of a cat ordog you know what to do
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[Nick 50]

If the partner has been riding for 20 years, why on earth was he not there at the viewing?

My suggestion, you may think a tad extreme, get a solicitor involved now. Get one to draft a letter and get it sent to them and make it abundantly clear that you will happily see them in court if they want to go down that route.

I would also make e-bay aware and get the solicitor to send them a copy of the said letter.

Or, just go down to their address without announcing and knock on the door and say right, I want to see this "damage" and the receipts for clutch etc.

[pinkyfloyd]

I'd tell him to piss off. Sold as seen. I'm sure you have the pics of the bike on listing and no doubt they will look different than the pics he can supply.

Your thinking that he's binned it was the same thing I thought. Clutch is gone. Clutch cable is gone and now the side stand. Thats all on the same side of the bike last I checked and all could go tits up in the event of a drop.

If Ebay and paypal find in his favour then they will only refund the money he has paid into paypal. The rest will have to be sorted afterwards.
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[The Artist]

[GhostRider]

Lol christ it gets better:

[N cee thirty]

had some dick do this to me,ignored him and he hasn't replied since

looked good at the bbq so havn't a clue what there on about

people=shit
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[The Artist]

Did you say sold as seen in the ebay listing?

[tatters]

[Jebus]

the guy is an idiot, trying to scam money out of you, private is sold as seen you haven't sold him a bike you know that has a load of problems he has droped it or crashed it and sound the time of git without insurance and wants you to pay for him being an idiot
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[GhostRider]

[Daimo]

Email him this link.

Yes ebayer, its a sold as seen item. You put a deposit, collected, happy, paid the rest... Deal was done..

"ALWAYS write a receipt saying sold as seen, and any known faults that the buyer is aware of to protect you"

I've never heard of a stand falling apart like that, it doesn't happen.

What an absolute bell end the ebay buyer is.

But this is why I would also never purchase a vehicle from ebay.

[The Artist]

[pinkyfloyd]

How can a garage prove that the clutch was gone before they bought the bike? Surely I could buy a bike from anyone and ride the clutch like mad all the way home thus putting strain on both the clutch cable and the clutch plates.

There is no way that a fix of the stand would work. If the stand had broken then a new stand would need to be ordered. Chances are he's trying to blag it for money back from you. Afterall you would have noticed the stand yourself, having lived with the bike.

I'd tell him the bike was sold as seen. Any issues he can take you to court for and the chances are they will laugh at him.
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[tatters]

[GhostRider]

[jimspeed]

chancer I recon, did they actually click buy it now on ebay or just come round and see it?
if they didn't buy it now thru ebay then it has nothing to do with ebay anyway.
I recon somebody either has some broken panels already and wants new ones for nothing or they think they can get an easy couple of quid back.
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[tatters]

There a chancer trying it on theres no way in hell they will turn up in person, the worst l had was a few snotty letters in the post threating legal action with the whole "your have 14 days before court action etc" they were a complete bluff complete with pages printed and highlighted off the citizen advice bureau funny to read though.
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[hazza]

This sort of thing really annoys me. If the guy wanted a warranty then he should have brought the bike from a dealer, with which you get dealer facilities. As it happens he paid less money for the bike with the understanding that if anything goes wrong the money he saved would pay for the repairs. End of.
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[GhostRider]

[Mr Hammers]

You're right to ignore him, guy's clearly a twat.

If he does come looking for you, we could always organise a BCF rideout... around his garden.
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