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[johnsmith222]

for ice cream!

This is a photo of the sightglass on my ZZR600E. Can anyone confirm that is indeed coolant that is in there?

https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/david_m213/CIMG0213.jpg

Does this mean the headgasket is gone?

The bike went down on it's side a few days ago. An oil change was done a few weeks ago and there wasn't any of that before. It was just your standard black oil up to the correct level.

Is it possible for coolant to leak into the engine when a bike is dropped on it's side?

[hmmmnz]

get some radiator stop leak chuck it in,
get the bike to temp, then dump that oil/sludge

hopefully its just a wee pin hole in the gasket, which the stop leak should sort,
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[Frost]

I believe last time you stopped at a garage you put the oil and milkshake in the wrong holes. I'd visit a doctor if i were you.

[johnsmith222]

[unitynotsocri...]

does'nt look right.Check the radiator cap for grey sludge and froth
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[stinkwheel]

On its right side?

Can't see how dropping a bike would make the head gasket leak but what about the water pump mechanical seal? Good chance the water pump cover would have touched down if it went over to the right.
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[johnsmith222]

[jaxx]

I had the creamy window a couple of times on my gsxr, turns out it was because I was only commuting short distances, twice a day, and the engine wasn't getting up to temp properly. Apparently this can cause condensation, over time which causes the mayo type substance.

Someone else will probably be able to explain it better than I, if its not completely wrong.

Cheers
Jaxx

[johnsmith222]

https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/david_m213/CIMG0216.jpg

This is the inside of my clutch case and you can clearly see the spunk that I was seeing in the sightglass.

and a photo of all of the oil I could pour out of the clutch case.

https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/david_m213/CIMG0217.jpg

[unitynotsocri...]

that looks like contamination,either water in the coolant or someone's been jizzing in your oil filler.
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[johnsmith222]

[unitynotsocri...]

you need to work out where the water got in first.Just reassembling it will do nothing except waste time and money.as Stinkwheel wrote you need to check the water pump has'nt been damaged for starters,banging the pump may have knacked the gasket.any cases with water channels in them need checking.
go over the whole engine,checking for any hidden damage to the head and cases.
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[unitynotsocri...]

On the zzr riders group website there's a reference to the water pump.The lower bolt has an O washer.When it goes then you can get oil leaks but a member suggests that the ring also stops water getting in the oil https://www.zzr-rg.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5163
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[stinkwheel]

That's a fairly small quantity of mayo. I'd have expected more if there was a significant coolant leak. Could just be condensation.

If it was me, I'd fill it back up with some cheap and cheerful oil and go for a decent run, keeping an eye on the temperature and coolant level. If there is a leak, you'll get more mayo. If it was condensation, you wont.

To give you an idea, this is the crankcase breather catch can off my Enfield. This is an AIR COOLED bike. There is no coolant, that mayo is purely from combustion gasses inside the engine. Now imagine how much you'd get from a coolant leak.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/distributor/DSCN0705.png
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[johnsmith222]

thanks stinkwheel. That has put my mind at ease a bit. The clutch cover gasket needs replaced and that is the cover which is pictured with the gooey mess on it. Do you think I should replace this and hope that it is rainwater that has got in from this side?

Thanks again.

-David.

[stinkwheel]

[funmonkee]

Just to add, my experince with Vmaxii. Short journeys tend to make that mayo stuff. It's always a worry to see that stuff. It's much worse if you fit clear engine cases. Sometimes it's better not to know what's going on inside

I'd take Hmmmnz advise as a first step he's usually right
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[johnsmith222]

Thanks a lot for your help stinkwheel. I actually have a new clutch gasket but I was putting off fitting it because I also need new clutch plates but couldn't afford them.

At this point I'll put the new clutch gasket on and drain the horrible oil. Then I'll do as you said and take it for a decent run and hope for the best. Thank you all for your help. I will let you know how I get on.