Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


My new toy! :)

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> Random Banter Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

binge
Emo Kiddy



Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:40 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: My new toy! :) Reply with quote

Never really had a fast car, so this is a good car for entry level stuff I guess.

The car it's self, is a Renault Clio Mk1, 1.2
Currently sitting on 13" steel wheeels, completely stock car, with a sneaky 1.8 16v F7P engine under the hood.
Been a bit of a project over the past few months. The first engine we fitted blew up, doh!
This is the second motor we've stuck in it.
It's got a Chipped ECU, De-Cat 1.8 exhaust system, PiperX induction kit, and soon to have a 4 branch manifold and Williams down pipes.

Speed wise, it's fun!
I wouldnt say excessively fast, but it holds it own against most other cars I come across on the road.

So far, I've had a play with most hot hatches, It seems 90% of them off, including the 172 Clio 2, It'll hold it's own against a Civic Type R, Last night I surprised a guy in a Celica Turbo. Smile

Under the bonnet:

https://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/321546_10150330676675606_506045605_7987814_1654758065_n.jpg


Currently dont have any decent pictures of the whole car, but I'm washing and polishing it this week, as well as fitting a set of 14" steelies on it, with decent tyres. Got to go bigger so I can get decent brakes on it! Tried slowing down quickly from 140mph the other night, and the brakes were completely inadequate, before they completely faded away, and I had no stopping power, forcing me to enter a roundabout at a silly speed. Embarassed



Lets see your sleepers!




Ben
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

bikertomm
World Chat Champion



Joined: 03 Jul 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:47 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is fucking sick mate, I've got a 1.4 'S' 2000 clio, isn't exactly fast but its good fun in the higher revs, it must be awsome seeing people's reactions when what looks like a standard car can move! Thumbs Up

The beast. Laughing
____________________
07' Honda Hornet now full powaah! My guide on performing an oil change!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Marmalade
World Chat Champion



Joined: 28 Apr 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:52 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Different kettle of fish completely but i had an Escort mk2 1100 that I put in a 2l cortina engine and a sierra 5sp gearbox.

Used to go like shit off a shovel, sideways mainly Very Happy
____________________
Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Slacker24seve...
World Chat Champion



Joined: 10 May 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:56 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 1.4 Mk1 Clio

I'm interested to hear what you've done to improve the handling as mine is pretty shit, especially in comparison to my mum's old 205 of the same era and my mates Uncle Fester.

Lift off oversteer on wet roundabouts will never get old though Laughing

To be fair I think my expectations might have been raised after driving a 206 GTI and chipped and lowered Leon Cupra R a fair bit recently Rolling Eyes
____________________
Triumph Daytona 675 track bike + girlfriend's Honda Hornet 600
Selling a hack/winter bike for less than a grand? PM me.
Banger rallies are ace
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

G
The Voice of Reason



Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:02 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: My new toy! :) Reply with quote

My M3 isn't a bad 'sleeper' as it could be a 318 as far as half the people realise - and half those that know the M3 badge think it was stuck on there for show anyway!

The mildly tuned with NOS m3 saloon I got came with a 316i badge somewhere for added sleeperness Smile.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Angel Girl
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 12 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:17 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of my beasties, 2001 325i SE 197BHP 0-60 in 7 secs and masses of torque. Handles like its on rails. It's car porn!

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/D-Pixie/15703_389261418913_633948913_3873568_4634208_n.jpg
____________________
Rides Honda CB500S aka "The Orange Peril"
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Al
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:17 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Volvo 440 with some factory options like alloys and a spoiler. A couple of people that don't know much about cars have asked me if its one of the fast ones the Police used to use.
I normally avoid answering the question but really its a 1.6, the heaviest car with the most under powered engine money can buy.
I think it's the opposite of a sleeper Smile
____________________
Yamaha FZR400RR 3tj
My Instagram Thingy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Angel Girl
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 12 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:20 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al wrote:
I have a Volvo 440 with some factory options like alloys and a spoiler. A couple of people that don't know much about cars have asked me if its one of the fast ones the Police used to use.
I normally avoid answering the question but really its a 1.6, the heaviest car with the most under powered engine money can buy.
I think it's the opposite of a sleeper Smile

My OH has a Volvo C70 T5 ..... definitely a sleeper for those not in the know!
____________________
Rides Honda CB500S aka "The Orange Peril"
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

D O G
World Chat Champion



Joined: 18 Dec 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:14 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, wondered what had happened to this.

What tyre size are you going to run on the 14's? And which brakes are you going to use? The vented discs from the 1.4 clios of the same era or something different? Personally I think the feel on my current brakes is absolutely amazing, but small solid discs I can see would fade quickly.

I have a 1.2 which I plan on swapping the engine on, hopefully in the summer, but only for the 1.4energy engine initially, then potentially tuning that. I only really want 100hp, and as little weight as possible. Must sort the body out 1st, ditching the leaky sunroof is essential.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

binge
Emo Kiddy



Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:45 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im tempted to do away with the roof, and fit a sunroof-less skin, I've seen people do it before, just seems like a lot of work.

I'm waiting on delivery of:

Polybush gearbox mount
All engine F7P Covers
14" Clio 3 steels (Will be running 185/55-14 tyres)
Spax 30mm lowering springs and dampers
1.8 valver hubs
1.8 valver discs
1.8 valver calipers
4 branch Willy manifold and downpipe

The above (Minus the engine covers of course), should transform the car.
I'll just lower the rear beam like I did my R5, and fit some willy dampers at some stage.




Ben
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

D O G
World Chat Champion



Joined: 18 Dec 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:51 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Im tempted to do away with the roof, and fit a sunroof-less skin, I've seen people do it before, just seems like a lot of work.


Does yours have a SR? I was thinking of cutting a section from a non SR equipped roof, then welding it in. I have virtually zero bodywork experience, and even less welding, but that was the plan.

Might get a fuckload of distortion tho?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

binge
Emo Kiddy



Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:40 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup mine has a sunroof.
It was all caulked / siliconed shut until today, the previous owner must of done it.
I spent an hour peeling silicone off, managed to force it open.
After winding it open and closed about 20 times, while dousing it all in WD40, it now operates like a normal sunroof.
But I can hear the wind coming in through it now, so I know it'll let water in.

As for changing to a Non-SR roof, I think it's easier to do the entire skin from what i've read.


Ben
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

mistergixer
World Chat Champion



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:00 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: My new toy! :) Reply with quote

binge wrote:


Speed wise, it's fun!
I wouldnt say excessively fast, but it holds it own against most other cars I come across on the road.

So far, I've had a play with most hot hatches, It seems 90% of them off, including the 172 Clio 2, It'll hold it's own against a Civic Type R, Last night I surprised a guy in a Celica Turbo. Smile




It always makes me cringe inwardly when I read/hear comments like the above, just as it does when I read comments on here along the lines of 'well my GS500 is faster than a Gixer thou because I overtook one the other day'.

Typically, it equates to the rider/driver being a) shit, b) not trying, or c) a combination of a) & b).

To give an example, a while ago I stuck with an Elise in my Mk2 MR2 on a blast around my favourite local twisties. I was having to drive to the very limits of my ability to stick with him and using all the road (where safe), which he wasn't.
Does that mean a Mk2 MR2 is as quick as an Elise?

Nope, I refer you to points a), b) and c) above. I have no doubt that, had he been driving as hard as I was, he would've fucked off well into the distance.
____________________
Space Monkey #7
Don Eladio is dead. His capos are dead. You have no one left to fight for. Fill your pockets and leave in peace. Or fight me and die!
Mistergixer's videos on YouTube
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

binge
Emo Kiddy



Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:03 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: My new toy! :) Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:

It always makes me cringe inwardly when I read/hear comments like the above, just as it does when I read comments on here along the lines of 'well my GS500 is faster than a Gixer thou because I overtook one the other day'.

Typically, it equates to the rider/driver being a) shit, b) not trying, or c) a combination of a) & b).

To give an example, a while ago I stuck with an Elise in my Mk2 MR2 on a blast around my favourite local twisties. I was having to drive to the very limits of my ability to stick with him and using all the road (where safe), which he wasn't.
Does that mean a Mk2 MR2 is as quick as an Elise?

Nope, I refer you to points a), b) and c) above. I have no doubt that, had he been driving as hard as I was, he would've fucked off well into the distance.


*Yawns*

I was referring to out and out straight line speed, from a near standing start.
Top speed, a Type R would easily pull away from the Clio, and in the twisties, Paha! The Clio would be dead meat.
But low end power, the Clio seriously pulls hard. Will easily stick with a Type R mate. It's 150bhp.



Ben
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

pits
World Chat Champion



Joined: 22 Apr 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:18 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not mine but I had one similar
https://www.clubvr4.com/forum/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=3886&d=1273096906

0-60 under 6 seconds and 4wd with an active rear diff, enough to show up most cars out there, I kinda miss mine slightly, but I don't miss running it too much of a pain in the arse to run, servicing, fuel and fixing.

Good fun though when you have a Corsa VXR come flying up the side of you on a dual carriageway and as you come up to a roundabout they slow down and you boot it and leave them standing Laughing
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

mistergixer
World Chat Champion



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:58 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: My new toy! :) Reply with quote

binge wrote:

*Yawns*

I was referring to out and out straight line speed, from a near standing start.
Top speed, a Type R would easily pull away from the Clio, and in the twisties, Paha! The Clio would be dead meat.
But low end power, the Clio seriously pulls hard. Will easily stick with a Type R mate. It's 150bhp.



Ben


<laughs>

From memory, the CTRs are typically around 6.5s 0-60. The Mk1 172s (which put out more than 150bhp, clue is in the name) are around 7.5s.

I refer you once again to points a), b) and c).

Nippy, yes. Fast, no.
____________________
Space Monkey #7
Don Eladio is dead. His capos are dead. You have no one left to fight for. Fill your pockets and leave in peace. Or fight me and die!
Mistergixer's videos on YouTube
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Azonicben
Could Be A Chat Bot



Joined: 22 Aug 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:20 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it`ll just about pull away from a cg Rolling Eyes
____________________
Cbt-23/09/07.....Theory-16/09/08.....Das passed 10/10/08.....
Current bike- GsxR750 K4. Broken: Cbr400rr (Nc29) Sold: Hyosung GT125R
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

binge
Emo Kiddy



Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 06:28 - 26 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: My new toy! :) Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:

From memory, the CTRs are typically around 6.5s 0-60. The Mk1 172s (which put out more than 150bhp, clue is in the name) are around 7.5s.

I refer you once again to points a), b) and c).

Nippy, yes. Fast, no.


The 172s put out nowhere near 172bhp at the wheels, especially once they're running an aux belt and a gearbox.
That power reading is taken from the crank/flywheel of a brand new engine with no aux belt or anything.

And even then, my car weighs a LOT less than what a 172 weighs.
As for 0-60, How do you know mine isnt faster than the above figures. Laughing
I've not declaired any 0-60 times, so you're just guessing.
I've got a dyno print out of 149bhp for this engine.
Again, I accept RR figures are only for reference when tuning a car, as apposed to an accurate reading of it's power.

The Clio is seriously quick for what it is. Top speed is little more than 130mph, but it makes up for it lower down.




Ben
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

m3-paul
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 03 Feb 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:10 - 26 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like my sleeper. Doesn't look much different to a 520d but it does pack a bit of a punch. Many people have very little idea of what lurks under the bonnet and I like it like that.
https://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/330paul/m5/m5-3.jpg
____________________
Yamaha TZR250 - love the smell of TTS!!!!
CBR900RR Fireblade - so much fun
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

P.
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:24 - 26 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your clio would have my supra Wink

Laughing 112mph limit ftw Laughing
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

binge
Emo Kiddy



Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:14 - 26 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Your clio would have my supra Wink

Laughing 112mph limit ftw Laughing


So far, I've had it at just over 130mph on a GPS speedo app on my phone.
That's on 13" wheels, and kissing the limiter in 5th.
So on 14" wheels with bigger tyres, it's got to be worth another 10mph.



Ben
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

P.
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:27 - 26 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be able to push a small 1.8 a bit harder... had my Rover 75 from Canterbury A2 towards the M2 junction down that huge hill indicated just over 140 screaming its absolute arse off..


Shortly after the inlet manifold gasket popped and RAC occurred Mr. Green
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

sc125
Borekit Bruiser



Joined: 18 May 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:28 - 26 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty cool thread. I'm on here all the time but never post but this caught my attention

I have my own little sleeper which I have done all my own work to. It's a 1993 106 xsi. Used to be a 1.4 8v but converted it to 1.6 16v with usual breathing mods. Was 120bhp@wheels. Raced a few people, friends throttle bodied 106, st170's, civic type r's. Didn't lose To those. Time came to get my first turbo car. So rather than buy one I'm turboing my xsi. With my setup I will be looking at 200 bhp @ wheels in a car that will weigh around 850kg. I've fully stripped it out and resprayed the bay. Started putting bits back in. Just waiting for turbo manifold and standalone management Wink
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

P.
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:40 - 26 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sc125 wrote:
Something about a 106..


Did you actually "beat" a Type R, they aren't anything special, but they are pretty nippy (Most are chucking around 200hp stock..)

I'm not doubting you...but I had some gimp in a 106 GTi threaten to thrash the pants out of me in the Supra, I didnt see him after the lights Wink Its a pretty heavy car and the old NA beat him... God forbid trying to race the big single Laughing

That said, I was thrashed by a carbon DC2 Integra.. That thing is light and nippy as fook.. so if your 106 is on par with that spec, I can understand Laughing
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

sc125
Borekit Bruiser



Joined: 18 May 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:31 - 26 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

well true, hard to say beat was on a private road and we were level i was nudging a little ahead of it. but the st's my old boss's 2.0 turbo saab i had to back off of so im happy mine was quicker than those. as for a supra i wouldnt even bother trying lol, n/a or turbo. maybe a little play down country lanes but straight line i wouldnt be that stupid lol.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 14 years, 112 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> Random Banter All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.12 Sec - Server Load: 0.37 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 136.49 Kb