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PostPosted: 23:49 - 23 Sep 2011    Post subject: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

First of all sorry for the long post Laughing

Just wondering has anyone got any advice out there about helmets basically I'm after ideally a Flip Face Helmet that can stay open when riding however looking at about £150 maximum budget because of riding in winter I don't know what is going to happen.

I know you can't really suggest any helmet as it depends what fits best however I've been looking at my local shops and hein gericke (queston about that one later on).

The helmets that have come up are Box SZ1 Takai, Hjc and Caberg has anyone had any usage of these before. My current helmet is a Takachi which I don't like and not really safe.

Also HG question with my only transport being bike or bus and the shop being two bus journeys away what is the best way of carrying shoppin on the bike ive got the tank bag and helmet bag at the moment.
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PostPosted: 05:20 - 24 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure only SCHUBERTH are approved to be riden with the flip front up.
So look @ £400+
But its ALL about fit.... £50 or £500 makes no diffrence.

A lot like your shopping on the bike....

Get panniers or a top box to carry it around. At a push a rucksack. Just don't put anything hard/sharp in there, should you fall off.....
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 24 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
I'm after ideally a Flip Face Helmet that can stay open when riding


Shark Evoline?

https://www.bikerssouthampton.co.uk/imagecreate.php?file=EvolineJetSLV.jpg&max=300


TheSmiler wrote:
what is the best way of carrying shoppin on the bike ive got the tank bag and helmet bag at the moment.


I use a tank bag (Lidl B-square), panniers (Oxford First Time) and a Motrax tail pack sold as a helmet bag - not sure if that's what you're talking about, it looks like this:

https://motorcycleworldl-spa.co.uk/images/uploads/HCC2BK_4.jpg

and another little tail bag which I used for waterproofs, first aid and multitool.

A big top box would hold a little more than the tail bag, but the combination can still hold a mighty load. If I don't get an "Are you taking all that on a bike?" at the checkout, I don't feel like I've done a proper shop. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 24 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you to both of you think I like the Shuberth but can't justify spending £400 at the moment on a helmet also like the shark thanks for the replies.

I'll try the bike show at the Nec saw it on another thread and see if I can drop on some bargains. Tempted to go up by bike but will most probably end up going by train so I can carry more back.
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


Great looking helmet.

I also like the Schuberth J1

https://www.grandprixlegends.com/Images/Products/XLarge_Images/HMT867_1.jpg



iooi, I have a Schuberth C3. Are you sure that you can legally ride with the front up? Confused Or is it the J1 that you're referring to?
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Caberg Trip which I could use on my Goldwing with its barn door fairing. On any other bike if ridden it is the noisist most horrible helmet I have had.

I don't think you are maeant to ride with the flip up, but you coulkdn't anyway, its too unbalanced.
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

For winter and touring I have a nitro flip face that cost me about £150 I like it.

However, I really like the look of these new flip faces, that go up and over. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

mattress wrote:
iooi, I have a Schuberth C3. Are you sure that you can legally ride with the front up? Confused Or is it the J1 that you're referring to?


Not sure which it relates too. Just remember reading it when I was looking for a new flip front earlier this year.

Clearly the Schuberth c3 is the only race approved filp front.

Liked the helmet when trying it on, but its the whole cost with bluetooth that put me off.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

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Clearly the Schuberth c3 is the only race approved filp front.

Liked the helmet when trying it on, but its the whole cost with bluetooth that put me off.


I just bought the Bluetooth collar but it's definitely OTT, price wise. You can get the same technology with a Parrot headset and thats going for £35.

That said, listening to radio 2, mp3 player, making phone calls or getting turn by turn instructions from my sat nat is pretty damn good!
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shuberth C3 isnt to be used flipped up when riding - homologated as full face only, this is the same with the shoei Multitech, most Cabergs and all cheapo flip fronts (nitro, LS2 etc)

Only dual homologated helmets can be used:

Shark evoline
Nolan N90
Nolan N103
maybe a few others?!?

None of which are under £150 (perhaps the N90 classic if you strike lucky?)

If you want dual use, you have to pay for it!!
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Takai SZ1. It only cost me £60 from Hein Gericke, and you get what you pay for. The build quality isn't great, it's quite loud and the flip down sun visor doesn't really work that well in the sun. Other than that, for £60 it's not bad.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
Thank you to both of you think I like the Shuberth but can't justify spending £400 at the moment on a helmet also like the shark thanks for the replies.

I'll try the bike show at the Nec saw it on another thread and see if I can drop on some bargains. Tempted to go up by bike but will most probably end up going by train so I can carry more back.


Shark Evo is the only flip thats approved for open & full face riding at the moment, as far as I'm aware. Dont know anything about the Shuberth; could be approved, could be its a re-badged shark. I dont know.

Can say, after being shown an Evo in Busters, I was sorely tempted, but put of by price. Hunting a new hat for Snowie, she tried one on in J&S who's service was going down hill... again, price was too much. At £300 it was £100 more than a Shoei that was a much nicer hat.

Checking on line, though; she found the Shark for £190 a hat, so got us both one!

So shop around; you might luck in; its only a LITTLE over your budget, and you might find one on stall at NEC...

WHICH remember is only eight miles down the road from me; if you want to tootle on down, and go from here.

What can say about the Evoi is its a heavy hat, and the 'balence' in the open face possition is 'peculiar'.

TheSmiler wrote:
Also HG question with my only transport being bike or bus and the shop being two bus journeys away what is the best way of carrying shoppin on the bike ive got the tank bag and helmet bag at the moment.


AHG! All those hours painting & detailing that tank! Shocked

I HOPE you are using cargo net to attach tank bag to pullion seat, NOT scratching the heck out of that beutiful paintwork with grit covered magnet tabs!

Cargo net & bag on the pillion is best for balence. But not most secure; though as I showed you, cargo nets do do a great job; but they are end of the day elastic.

Long term answer for practicality & convenience is a rack & box.

£45 for a 45l top box & plate like Snowie's, but you'll have to hunt out a compatible rack to bolt over the tail.

Plenty of excuse to scour e-bay for you though, looking for New Old Stock; Second Hand or a 'universal' fit!

PS: Did them Fuses Turn up in post?
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:


Shark Evo is the only flip thats approved for open & full face riding at the moment, as far as I'm aware. Dont know anything about the Shuberth; could be approved, could be its a re-badged shark. I dont know.

Can say, after being shown an Evo in Busters, I was sorely tempted, but put of by price. Hunting a new hat for Snowie, she tried one on in J&S who's service was going down hill... again, price was too much. At £300 it was £100 more than a Shoei that was a much nicer hat.

Checking on line, though; she found the Shark for £190 a hat, so got us both one!

So shop around; you might luck in; its only a LITTLE over your budget, and you might find one on stall at NEC...

WHICH remember is only eight miles down the road from me; if you want to tootle on down, and go from here.

What can say about the Evoi is its a heavy hat, and the 'balence' in the open face possition is 'peculiar'.


I have seen the shark in a local shop for £200 but didn't go for it because I am trying to spread the cash out more this year.

Wasted too much last year on nothing in so little time, I've also seen some hats online however felt a bit worried about delivery on the helmet.

I think i'm going leave it till the NEC and keep the helmet I've got at the moment (or might get a cheap £50 one from the shop);

I will be going by train that way I can carry a new jacket with ease if they have any nice ones. Might come down by bike but depends how everything is at the time.

Teflon-Mike wrote:

AHG! All those hours painting & detailing that tank! Shocked

I HOPE you are using cargo net to attach tank bag to pullion seat, NOT scratching the heck out of that beutiful paintwork with grit covered magnet tabs!

Cargo net & bag on the pillion is best for balence. But not most secure; though as I showed you, cargo nets do do a great job; but they are end of the day elastic.

Long term answer for practicality & convenience is a rack & box.

£45 for a 45l top box & plate like Snowie's, but you'll have to hunt out a compatible rack to bolt over the tail.

Plenty of excuse to scour e-bay for you though, looking for New Old Stock; Second Hand or a 'universal' fit!

PS: Did them Fuses Turn up in post?


Dont worry I haven't placed it over the tank (well did once just to see what it would look like) but it didn't look right.

I have been looking over ebay, but haven't found one yet since way back in july still look every night just encase I can drop on one though.

Did manage find this however https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380186775093?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Not sure what you think of it being from Thailand but it may help if it would fit and good quality if you do any builds in the future.

*The fuses haven't turned up yet however we haven't had any post for the last 2 days (Friday and Saturday) so should be here soon thank you for sending it.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:

Did manage find this however https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380186775093?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Not sure what you think of it being from Thailand but it may help if it would fit and good quality if you do any builds in the future.

Yup' wont fit... or at least its not the same as CB125TD-C stand. I checked part numbers; they aren't the same!

You might as well hang onto the hat you got for the month till NEC, and see if you can pick up a decent hat there.

If I remember; you were impressed by open face; & with winter coming; though they are cold, they don't steam or frost up; you ought to be able to pick one up at show for £25ish...
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:

I HOPE you are using cargo net to attach tank bag to pullion seat, NOT scratching the heck out of that beutiful paintwork with grit covered magnet tabs!



I managed to use a magnetic tank bag for many years on different bikes without once scratching the tank.

I managed this through a combination of a) not putting it down on gritty surfaces, and b) giving it a quick wipe before I put it on the tank.

Revolutionary thinking, probably never catch on etc.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 25 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmets Choice Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone who replied, yeah mike the open face was eye opening to say the least. Think I will wait till then might be able get a good pinstripe open face then Very Happy to go with the airbrushed jacket Mr. Green

mistergixer wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:

I HOPE you are using cargo net to attach tank bag to pullion seat, NOT scratching the heck out of that beutiful paintwork with grit covered magnet tabs!



I managed to use a magnetic tank bag for many years on different bikes without once scratching the tank.

I managed this through a combination of a) not putting it down on gritty surfaces, and b) giving it a quick wipe before I put it on the tank.

Revolutionary thinking, probably never catch on etc.


That is using your nogging people don't do that where I live Wink
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