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PostPosted: 16:30 - 27 Sep 2011    Post subject: Rotten Tomatoes Reply with quote

(The film review site)

Is it just me or are they really miserable on there? I usually have a quick check on IMDB and there when I want to watch a film, I just use it as a guideline. Almost all the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are so negative
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 27 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, just newer films are pretty shit, good ones are pretty rare now Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 27 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

RT is too media driven imo. Reviews based on a bunch of tossers trying to fill column inches.

Not that imdb is much better, but at least most of the reviews are by folks that have at least a passing interest in what's being shown.
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PostPosted: 07:05 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rotten Tomatoes has no tolerance to plain good 'switch off the brain' films either. Just cause blowing stuff up isn't classic literature, doesn't mean it makes bad or unsuccessful films.

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PostPosted: 08:18 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck reading reviews on any site or in any newspaper.

The best indicator of whether a film is decent or not is to simply go on IMDB and look at the overall rating, if it's really shit (1-4/10) and 4000 people agree, the chances are it's going to be shit, if it's floating around 5-7/10 then it's probably worth a watch with a slight risk it's going to be cack because evidently it's not going to be everyones cup of tea, 8/10 and above and you can be pretty sure it's going to be a good film, providing it's remotely in your viewing interests to begin with.

To be honest these film critics who get so much praise for slating other peoples work....well hows about you go out and make a better fucking movie to show them how it's done since you seem to be such a fucking expert? Oh wait, you can't, because you think being a fat cunt sat watching films all day makes you an expert on the subject when in actual fact it doesn't.

I've found the film reviews in the Metro and Daily mail are the worst, unless it's some period drama about how some slag in the 16th century sucked off the stable boy to get away from her abusive rich husband, they rate them as total shit, when I've watched the same films and been thoroughly entertained, as has anyone else that's watched the films.

Film critics, what a bunch of useless humans.

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PostPosted: 10:13 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMDB ftw, as ghostrider said under 6 and I don't usually bother watching unless someone I know has suggested it. 6-7 good film, 7-8 great film. 8+ Usually brilliant. I think the highest rated film is 9.1 or something.
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The best indicator of whether a film is decent or not is to simply go on IMDB and look at the overall rating, if it's really shit (1-4/10) and 4000 people agree, the chances are it's going to be shit, if it's floating around 5-7/10 then it's probably worth a watch with a slight risk it's going to be cack because evidently it's not going to be everyones cup of tea, 8/10 and above and you can be pretty sure it's going to be a good film, providing it's remotely in your viewing interests to begin with.



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PostPosted: 10:15 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can but quote Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back:

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This is a site full of militant movie buffs: sad bastards who live in their parents' basements, downloading scripts and trading what they believe to be inside info about movies and actors they claim to despise yet can't stop discussing. This is where you go if you wanna hear frustrated would-be filmmakers mouth off with their two-bit, arm-chair-directors' opinions on how they all could've made a better Episode One. [...] they're a bunch of jealous little dicks who use the anonymity of the Net to insult people who're doing what they wish they were doing

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PostPosted: 10:21 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Ghostrider on this one. I never take reviews on face value.

All too many times I've seen the posters "Film magazine say best movie in years", "5 stars says Empire". Yadda yadda. Newspapers then go on and say its a terrible movie.

A movie review is nothing more than the persons opinion of the movie. Personally I think Aliens is the greatest movie ever made and Titanic is one of the worst movies ever made. Not everyone will agree with me and many will argue that Titanic is the best movie they have ever seen, my sister and her friends went to see the thing 7 times in the cinema!!! I struggled through it once and it was torture.

You want to know how good or bad a movie is then go and see it. The Imdb is good to get a rough idea but thats all it is. You will never get a movie that has the full 10.0 rating and if you were among 100 people who reviewed the movie you may well be the 1% that thinks the movie sucked giving the movie a 9.9 rating.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easiest way is to find a reviewer of similar taste to yourself. Over the years I have found both Mark Kermode and 'Wossie' are usually spot on for my liking...
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Personally I think Aliens is the greatest movie ever made


I will let you off because you can't have seen Pulp Fiction because if you had, you would know that Aliens is not the best film (not movie) ever made.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:

The best indicator of whether a film is decent or not is to simply go and watch it yourself and make up your own mind.


EFA.

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I do disagree that it is necessary for critics to have produced better work in order for them to provide a critique of work.
By this logic, it would be necessary to paint a Mona Lisa to be an art critic, or to have written a novel in order to provide literary criticism.
All a review/criticism is, is an opinion of the reviewer/critic. Anyone can hold an opinion, regardless of qualifications or personal 'output'.

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PostPosted: 10:41 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:

I do disagree that it is necessary for critics to have produced better work in order for them to provide a critique of work.
By this logic, it would be necessary to paint a Mona Lisa to be an art critic, or to have written a novel in order to provide literary criticism.
All a review/criticism is, is an opinion of the reviewer/critic. Anyone can hold an opinion, regardless of qualifications or personal 'output'.

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I agree with that but if I see a film on tv I have never heard of and I look it up on imdb and it gets 5.4, I am not going to waste my time watching it. If it gets 6.5 I will read the synopsis and get an idea of what it is about and make my decision from there. Anything above 7, so long as I am free I will watch.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
pinkyfloyd wrote:
Personally I think Aliens is the greatest movie ever made


I will let you off because you can't have seen Pulp Fiction because if you had, you would know that Aliens is not the best film (not movie) ever made.


Seen Pulp Fiction several times. Thought Res dogs was better though Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this in a similar thread a while back. There is a website called Movie Lens which lets you sign up, rate some movies from a list and then it begins to recommend films you'd like. Seems to work quite well and Bonny tried it when I posted up last time and said how impressed he was.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:

I agree with that but if I see a film on tv I have never heard of and I look it up on imdb and it gets 5.4, I am not going to waste my time watching it. If it gets 6.5 I will read the synopsis and get an idea of what it is about and make my decision from there. Anything above 7, so long as I am free I will watch.


That's where you and I differ - I'd prefer to see something and decide for myself, as opposed to taking someone else's word for it, a person who may have very different views from me.

For example, if I adhered to your ratings system, I would never have seen the marvel that is 'Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus', as this rated a lowly 2.5 on IMDB.

Likewise, one of the best ninja films of all time (Sakura Killers) only managed 2.9 on IMDB.

Thinking for yourself - try it.

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PostPosted: 11:40 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
GhostRider wrote:

The best indicator of whether a film is decent or not is to simply go and watch it yourself and make up your own mind.


EFA.

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I do disagree that it is necessary for critics to have produced better work in order for them to provide a critique of work.
By this logic, it would be necessary to paint a Mona Lisa to be an art critic, or to have written a novel in order to provide literary criticism.
All a review/criticism is, is an opinion of the reviewer/critic. Anyone can hold an opinion, regardless of qualifications or personal 'output'.

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True in a way, but if somone's going to criticise something, in public, with the potential to draw people away from viewing said film, and potentially lose the film maker hundreds of thousands, nay millions, of pounds in revenue, then they'd better have half a clue what the fuck they're talking about before they start flapping their gums. I don't recall Jonathan Ross having had anything ever to do with film making, story writing, directing, lighting, cinematics etc, instead he talks like a cunt and generalyl acts like a cunt on tv, so why are we supposed to revere his opinions on what makes a good film and what doesn't? I'd take an A-level media studies students' opinion over his.

Criticism on a forum, banter like, is way different, and whether you take notice of another persons opinion is up to you.

And I should have thrown in the caveat that sometimes you should ignore the consensus and watch something with a bad rating anyway because whilst 4000 people may think that "Dinocroc" is a bag of shite, one must remember that by and large, the general populous is full of utter fucking retards immersed in this years Big Brother anyway, and so their right to breed, let alone their opinions on films, should be stricken from the record.

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PostPosted: 12:03 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:


That's where you and I differ - I'd prefer to see something and decide for myself, as opposed to taking someone else's word for it, a person who may have very different views from me.

For example, if I adhered to your ratings system, I would never have seen the marvel that is 'Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus', as this rated a lowly 2.5 on IMDB.

Likewise, one of the best ninja films of all time (Sakura Killers) only managed 2.9 on IMDB.

Thinking for yourself - try it.

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I have seen mega shark vs giant octopus, I saw it on imdb and saw that it was one of the lowest rated so I had to see how bad it was. Also fat slags for the same reason.

It is nothing like reading a bad review, it is lots of people, sometimes hundreds of thousands so it evens out. I have never seen a film below 6 that I thought was really good.

I just had a look at Sakura killers. It was highest rated by under 18's

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093910/ratings

This shows the reality. Although to be fair, that film only has 149 votes so not exactly accurate.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting "weighted average" system they've got going. I've had a peek through some of their breakdowns, and it does seem to be doing a good job of weeding out fanboi excesses and astroturfing. If you like a poorly rated film, consider rating it 7 or 8 - it looks like 10s are just pruned out of the average score.
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