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PostPosted: 17:57 - 04 Oct 2011    Post subject: Problems on bikes or product design issues Reply with quote

Hello guys.
Im doing some more research you may have read my other Forum. I was just wondering what you think problem areas are on a bike in terms of health and safety issues and communication between technologies such as media devices. For example, im already investigating problems with satnav being attached to the tank, but a lot of motorcyclist say that its not a big issue, some of you talk about heated gloves, and visors getting dirty and condensation on the visor, being able to access media on your phone some were saying have a a device that attaches to your tank and big buttons to allow you to answer a call or disconnect, go to the next track or volume up and down etc.

can you guys help me out and tell me what you think are problems and how you think it could be designed better or fixed.

Thanks guys
Waseem (btw i dont ride a bike myself)
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 04 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not being able to access media on your motorbike is a GOOD thing. It allows you to concentrate on the road which is what you should be doing!

On the M18 yesterday I saw some git on a PSP Mad
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 04 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Problems on bikes or product design issues Reply with quote

waseem4477 wrote:
I was just wondering what you think problem areas are on a bike in terms of health and safety issues and communication between technologies such as media devices.


Biggest problem we face as bikers are people with no clue about riding thinking they can cure our problems. Maybe you'd like a job in Brussells?
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 04 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Problems on bikes or product design issues Reply with quote

[quote="The Shaggy D.A."]
waseem4477 wrote:

Biggest problem we face as bikers are people with no clue about riding thinking they can cure our problems. Maybe you'd like a job in Brussells?


thats a problem but doesnt help me :@
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 04 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Problems on bikes or product design issues Reply with quote

waseem4477 wrote:

Waseem (btw i dont ride a bike myself)


I think that was point - If you dont ride a bike, you are unlikely to solve any of the 'issues' no riders believe we have!

Find another cause to 'help' instead
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 04 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw a bloke on the A1(M) with directions written on his sleeve.
He exited the services and went round the garage...came back...stopped...and looked at his sleeve again.

Glad i got that off my chest.
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking for devices to sell to bikers, then you've pretty much answered your own question. Big, waterproof controls. Something that can clip on to bars, with a tactile button or chunky rocker switch that can be worked by touch.

But in-b4-stinkwheel, the #1 item to improve bike safety would be a visor that doesn't fog up or scratch to buggery in short order, without having to add on aftermarket gubbins.
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

A visor that doesn't fog or scratch has to be no.1 on your invention list.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
A visor that doesn't fog or scratch has to be no.1 on your invention list.



+2.


And that doesn't cost £30+ to replace when the "non scratch" visor gets inevitably scratched to death.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i want a mind link to my bike,
pushing buttons and flipping switches is so 1960's
oh and a force field bubble, and machine guns
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

anti-mist/fog visor that reacts to the light to darken the visor when bright and lighter when its dark like those special glasses
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit irrelevant really, since you completely lack the skills to make even a prototype of these things!
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like a lid with a rear view mirror in it. Like the reevu but one that I can try on before buying, one that costs a bit less and one that the manufactieres are confident enough in their product to send it for independent testing i.e. sharp.

I did ask them about the sharp tests once, I wasn't satisfied that the response was anything more than a way of dodging tests because it would probably do badly. In the name of fairness though and as I don't want to be seen to be slating a random company unfairly I'll give you the official response:


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From an email reply:

The Reevu helmet is a global product, we where invited to add input at the consultation period of Sharp. However Helmet Fitting, Size issues. Age of helmet, and materials are major contributing factors in helmet safety and the integrity of helmets if in the event of an accident, due to Sharp not addressing these issues we felt the test was something that we as a global leader in helmet safety did not want to get associated with. I can tell you that the Optic Part in the Reevu helmet acts as a crumple zone.. and is the only helmet in the world with one, we dont bang on about it as we do not want to ditract from the Rear view optic system.



The ideal solution IMO would be a retrofit rear view mirror system so it can be attached to a lid of our choosing. If the reevu is ever stocked in shops I'll certainly give one a try (assuming the price drops to reflect a more widespread uptake).
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue is that most of the 'problems' have been around donkeys years and had many people try and solve them.

Misting visor really isn't an issue because there's solutions out there. Rain on visor or similar is more of an issue - no one has yet found a decent solution, though many have tried.

Isn't there a field you have an interest in you could focus on?
People that ride bikes themselves are more likely to quickly see flaws in prototypes etc.

Actually, after all that - how about a powered waterproof phone holder, with extra bar-mounted buttons.
Unfortunately you'll have to wait for another release of android before you could easily make it a reality I suspect - and even then more of the design would be in the 'app' to tie it all together.

Another one I've had in the back of my mind for ages - a stoppy training aid.
You can get wheelie training aids that let you do cack handed wheelies and not crash, but not the same for the front end.
Ideally, it should let you go past the balance point for 'advanced' training, but even something that managed to safely lower you down a bit before that would be interesting.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:

The ideal solution IMO would be a retrofit rear view mirror system so it can be attached to a lid of our choosing. If the reevu is ever stocked in shops I'll certainly give one a try (assuming the price drops to reflect a more widespread uptake).



They exist search for cycling helmet mirror. Drill a hole in your visor and you can position a mirror on your helmet. I'd be worried in a spill it would come loose and the rod would stab you in the face.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
DonnyBrago wrote:

The ideal solution IMO would be a retrofit rear view mirror system so it can be attached to a lid of our choosing. If the reevu is ever stocked in shops I'll certainly give one a try (assuming the price drops to reflect a more widespread uptake).



They exist search for cycling helmet mirror. Drill a hole in your visor and you can position a mirror on your helmet. I'd be worried in a spill it would come loose and the rod would stab you in the face.


At least you wouldn't need to mount it to your new helmet once its buried in your face Wink
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like Jim to fix it so that I can have 'blade performance with C90 fuel consumption, purchase and running costs, ta!
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a device that's make bikers more visible to car drivers.Maybe a sensor that picks up cars in side roads And make your lights flash automatically? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sidewinder wrote:
How about a device that's make bikers more visible to car drivers.Maybe a sensor that picks up cars in side roads And make your lights flash automatically? Very Happy

Erm, yea - sounds like an ideal way to get car drivers to pull out in front of you Shocked.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
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How about a device that's make bikers more visible to car drivers.Maybe a sensor that picks up cars in side roads And make your lights flash automatically? Very Happy

Erm, yea - sounds like an ideal way to get car drivers to pull out in front of you Shocked.


Ah yes my bad..I see your point Embarassed But i ment more of a strobeing affect Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sidewinder wrote:


Ah yes my bad..I see your point Embarassed But i ment more of a strobeing affect Very Happy


Good for epilepsy sufferers/disco fiends. Laughing

How about electronic suspension/chassis adjustment?
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:

How about electronic suspension/chassis adjustment?

Not really a new idea, again, though?

Thought there was someone making a remote adjustable unit now, but a while since I last looked.

I more like the idea of it for cars, but even there where it's pretty common on many more expensive cars, it doesn't seem to be a big thing as far as an aftermarket option goes - think only Tein offers it.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:

How about electronic suspension/chassis adjustment?

Not really a new idea, again, though?



Not seen electronic suspension adjustment, although I wouldn't be surprised if you're right.

By chassis adjustment I mean alter rack, trail, fork length, wheel base length, at the touch of a button. Kick the forks out, length and flatten the shock for that cruiser feel.

Or shorten and bring the shock more upright for more agility.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick google doesn't shop up anything; though I'm sure at some point a company did have a product at least prototyped, and hyped. There do seem to be quite a few complete replacement systems for bikes that already have remote adjustable suspension, however, ironically enough.
I definitely remember seeing it because it's something I've had in the back of my head for years.
I thought if you got really fancy, you could connect it to a GPS and get it to automatically change the suspension while riding on track.

So it sees you're coming up to a bumpy corner and softens it up. If you got REALLY fancy using a faster system, you could even have it react to accelerating/braking forces, so it works differently depending on what you are doing.

Just a basic system I thought would be good for testing out settings on track - no wasting time mid-session, or having to wait an hour until you're out again.


I've also thought about the wheel base option.
Unfortunately you'd really have to have some method to extend the chain - ie a sprung freewheeling sprocket or similar, like you get in a push bike derailleur.
Then you basically have an extended swingarm and some pistons that can move the rear wheel back/forwards - want to go for a really fast launch, hit the 'long' button, then tighten it up when you get to the bits where you have to turn.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 05 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
i want one of these:

On that, this is actually it would seem this is an actual product sold by aerostich:
https://www.aerostich.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/448x/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/h/e/head_tent_1a.jpg

A 'head tent'!
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