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Cheerfulgrin
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 07 Oct 2011    Post subject: Noob at a roundabout! Reply with quote

from what i remember of cbt training, i am supposed to go round the inside of a roundabout when exiting it at a 12 oclock position. does this apply when its a double lane entrance but single lane exit?

i have the roundabout pictured below on my way to work, i enter the roundabout on the inside lane and exit at the 12 oclock position, which is a single lane. the road coming right to left is the major road here.

am i doing this right and what is the thinking behind sitting on the inside of the roundabout and jumping off at the 12 oclock position rather than going round the outside which would give an easier exit, surely?

thanks for any advice, its been bugging me a while this one.

Rob

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PostPosted: 21:22 - 07 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either is correct, although quite often there are arrow markings painted on the carriageway which you should obey.

You need to be wary of others in the wrong lane.
I've sometimes seen less confident drivers use the left lane even when going right. Rolling Eyes
If you're in the RH side you need to be watching them very carefully, and avoid blind spots at all costs if running almost alongside.

In general you're probably best using the left lane for straight ahead unless there are other vehicles queuing there.


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PostPosted: 21:23 - 07 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

12 O'Clock you should be in inside lane, anything past 12 use the outside lane and start moving inside as you pass the exit before yours. Thumbs Up

See here. https://www.findleys.co.uk/highway_code/roundabouts.html
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being as it goes into a single lane at the exit I would pick the nearside lane, behind the blue car in the pic.

Even if it went to two lanes I would still prefer the nearside lane.
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Highway Code wrote:


Unless there's some signage that I can't see, I'd probably use the left hand lane in your example. See:

https://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_070540.jpg

However, it's not hard and fast. If other traffic habitually uses the left lane as a left-only lane, then I'd either use the right hand lane (so as not to get pulled out on at the first exit) and be prepared to ride around if the 2nd exit is blocked, or at least stay way to the right of the left hand lane, possibly even indicate right - not during a test! - but anything to try and stop a pull-out at the first exit if people there are likely to assume that I'm turning off left.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

so there is no difference between cars and bikes when positioning at a roundabout?

i thought as much but i'm sure my CBT instructor said differently Confused

i'll be using the left hand entrance in future, unless a car is there and they are indicating left to exit at first exit, then i will use the right hand lane.

thanks for helping clear that up!
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would only use the left hand lane in this instance. If you use the right lane, intending to go straight on, someone waiting to enter the roundabout from your left, and intending to go left, is going to pull out in front of you, leaving you nowhere to go. It wont happen all the time, but it will happen sooner or later. One of the worst things that happens on the roads today is other drivers assuming they know what you're going to do.

I cant stress it enough, using the right hand lane to go straight through in this instance, will see you having a few near misses. Stay in the left lane.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for position four on the inside lane and do a few left lifesavers as a hint to the cagers.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Know what really bugs me about Roundabouts?

Edgers, those feckers that want to go but can't quiet make their minds up so they edge out encroaching on your lane as you're coming off the roundabout.

If you know the old Yorkshire Grey roundabout (SE London) you'll now what I mean. They almost steal your bloody exit lane completely.

I've gone round there with my hand up in a 'halt' motion and a glare that Mike Tyson would be proud of, Laughing It's that bad sometimes.

Just throwing that in here Wink
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filter to the front and when you see a space gun it...
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maverick Rigger wrote:
Filter to the front and when you see a space gun it...


Assuming...

You're familiar with the roundabout.
Weather conditions and road surface are good.
There's nothing coming from the right.
You are absolutely certain no-one is going to jump in from 9 o'clock.
There aren't any other bikers nearby who might do the same as you at the same time.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Maverick Rigger wrote:
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Assuming...

You're familiar with the roundabout.
Weather conditions and road surface are good.
There's nothing coming from the right.
You are absolutely certain no-one is going to jump in from 9 o'clock.
There aren't any other bikers nearby who might do the same as you at the same time.


That's all part of the decision making and though it went without saying. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would always use the left hand lane in this situation.

Even when as you described someone is already in it indicating left.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conon wrote:
I would only use the left hand lane in this instance. If you use the right lane, intending to go straight on, someone waiting to enter the roundabout from your left, and intending to go left, is going to pull out in front of you, leaving you nowhere to go. It wont happen all the time, but it will happen sooner or later. One of the worst things that happens on the roads today is other drivers assuming they know what you're going to do.

I cant stress it enough, using the right hand lane to go straight through in this instance, will see you having a few near misses. Stay in the left lane.


I will be using the left hand lane from now on, unless someone is sat there already with a left indicator on, then i'll use the right hand lane and look out for people joining from 9 oclock!

thanks for the advice guys Thumbs Up Karma
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