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yankeedoodle
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 10 Oct 2011    Post subject: zx6r prices Reply with quote

hi all

hope this isnt a topic thats been covered much. ive done some research but not found the answer to my question.

im comparing the gsxr 600 k4/k5 with the kawa b1h and c1h

the kwak always seems to be noticeably cheaper than the equivalent than the gsxr and I dont know why? reviews I've read say that the kwak is a bit quicker with the extra 37cc and that build quality between the 2 is quite similar

can anyone enlighten me as to why this is?

im looking to upgrade from my bandit 6 this winter to get something sportier and to do some trackdays on

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PostPosted: 20:41 - 10 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess would be the demand for gsxr's? seem to be very popular with all the youths. Could be wrong though....

I prefer the zx6r's especially the B1h, supposedly very revvy and powerful engines.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 10 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're definitely better off with the Kawasaki. IMO you get much more bang for your buck with the magnesium casings, suspension, clocks etc.

I've owned a GSXR, R6 and 2 zx6rs (one 2001, and currently an 05 636). Albeit my gsxr was a srad, and my r6 was a 5eb, so no real comparason.

Look at the R6 in the pricerange of the c6f/c1h... It still has RWU forks etc. GSXR is just old tech living off a name.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 10 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys. sam, i thought the same thing. but then theres also tonnes more gsxrs around so I thought that would make it a more competitive market and hence make prices a bit lower.

will definitely be looking out for a b1h or c1h or maybe even c6f seeing as you seem to be able to get more bike for less money
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 10 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode a B1H for 5 months and they're amazing bikes for the money. Look the tits, extremely revy and a nice range of power. Also, design wise, they look very modern considering the age of them and compared to K3/K4s.

You can pick up a clean example for £3,000 in the summer and a fair bit less around this time of the year. I've seen them go for as low as £2,500 around winter.
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PostPosted: 03:07 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Thumbs Up ...
I got a b1 & a K7 thou myself but still can't warm to the Suzuki looks.... although i can't fault it.....it just doesn't seem to have appeal of a Kwak Neutral
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a C6F and it's a cracking bike. The C models had more power and torque than any other 600 of it's time. It's also taken a while for the latests ZX6R to match the HP of the C models.

As matt said the C is full of trick bits, the lightweight wheels, slipper clutch, gp style swing arm, under-seat exhaust. Also it's a beautiful looking machine.

The B models are great, but consider them as the standard version and the C models the 'R' version. There was that much of a leap in refinement.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rowey wrote:
I've got a C6F and it's a cracking bike. The C models had more power and torque than any other 600 of it's time. It's also taken a while for the latests ZX6R to match the HP of the C models.

As matt said the C is full of trick bits, the lightweight wheels, slipper clutch, gp style swing arm, under-seat exhaust. Also it's a beautiful looking machine.

The B models are great, but consider them as the standard version and the C models the 'R' version. There was that much of a leap in refinement.


Only the 06 bike had the slipper, but even if you pick up an 05, the clutch swaps straight over and costs about £80

The b1h and b2h are considered less bulky, better handling bikes
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get a litre Kwak instead Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:37 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with going from a Bandit 6 to a litre?
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait until Christmas time and Im sure you'll be able to pick up b1h for just over 2grand, be it a bit high mileage. That's actually my plan for this year, unless an uber cheap cbr 600rr or gsxr k4 pops up.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the advice guys

believe it or not there are b1hs with around 15k miles going for well under £3k already

not really intrested in a litre bike at this stage. the bandit 6 has been tonnes of fun but now im just want something with a bit more power and something that handles better. also, got a modified bandit 12 that I will be keeping
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt the 2005 also has the slipper clutch, Hope you've not swapped yours for that of a 2006, i doubt it would make a difference.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Kawasaki/Kawasaki-ZX-6R-C-2005-2006/
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasakis tend to be cheaper, because traditionally Kawasaki slash the price of their new stock near the end of their life. This then hurts the used price too.

They're both cracking bikes to be honest.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be after a B1H soon too Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom85 wrote:
Matt the 2005 also has the slipper clutch, Hope you've not swapped yours for that of a 2006, i doubt it would make a difference.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Kawasaki/Kawasaki-ZX-6R-C-2005-2006/


I havn't done the upgrade, hence how I know my bike (2005) doesn't have a slipper clutch.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be just yours then Wink It is standard on the c1h it was a major selling point when they were released.
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom85 wrote:
Must be just yours then Wink It is standard on the c1h it was a major selling point when they were released.


Aye my C1H has one..
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
Tom85 wrote:
Matt the 2005 also has the slipper clutch, Hope you've not swapped yours for that of a 2006, i doubt it would make a difference.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Kawasaki/Kawasaki-ZX-6R-C-2005-2006/


I havn't done the upgrade, hence how I know my bike (2005) doesn't have a slipper clutch.


the C models have a slipper clutch as standard,
as does the 599cc rr B model, seems odd why your bike lacks one Confused

to my memory the only changes to the 06 model were colour options
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

if that's the case, I've never noticed it working, no matter how hard I ride it.
I'm sure I read somewhere the 05 bikes didn't have it
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it means anything i got a B1h (53 plate) late last year with less than 15k on the clocks, steering damper, full akra exhaust, gilles rear sets and some other tarty bits for £1700.... Deals are out there Wink
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont pay more than 2500 for a b1h
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Souleh wrote:
Dont pay anywhere near 2500 for a b1h


EFA.
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith


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PostPosted: 20:02 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Souleh wrote:
Dont pay more than 2500 for a b1h


If he doesn't, he's going to have a wait on his hands as i've found out.

I've been looking since around the end of april for a b1h at a reasonable price. People are advertising them at laughable prices wherever i've looked, ebay, pistonheads,autotrader,mcn etc, and aren't willing to shift for much less than advertised. I know what they're worth, checked parkers guide, old used prices i've seen em go for etc, which is why i haven't paid over the odds for one, but i've seen people advertising 15k+ 03 plates @ £3500!

One was even at just under 4 grand. Only a few hundred quid less than they were new. Some have been for sale since april, but yet they're still not budging on price.

Missed out on one the other day because i forgot it was ending. 8k on the clocks, in black, £2070 it went for. A more realistic price imho.

I guess what im trying to say with my rant is, im fed up of dickheads expecting the world for an 8 yr old bike, so if anyone has a good condition lowish mile B1H for sale (candy blue or black), at a decent price, get in touch. This cash is starting to burn a hole. Laughing
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