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firatcck
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 15 Oct 2011    Post subject: Nsr 125 not starting Reply with quote
Hello everyone.Iam from switzerland.Yesterday I bought a 1998 Honda Nsr 125R.its JC22E.Motor is very good condition.But the only problem is,itsnot starting.It was sitting for a year,nobody ride or run it for along time.But now I try to run it but I cant.
First,battery was empty.I change battery and now has good energy.When I turned to key,I can see Neutral and Side stand lamp.And I try to run it,its engaging,everything normal but not running.Tank is full for a year.And I controlled the ignition,its normal.when I plug out spark plug cable,I can see spark.I cleaned filter.Tomorrow morning I will plug out spark plug and clean or change it.But although I wanted to ask you,why dont this motorbike running? And when I take off seat,I saw 2 cable (orange-white) which is not connected.these are located under the passenger seat.what are these cables? Thanks for your help
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 15 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Nsr 125 not starting Reply with quote
firatcck wrote:
Hello everyone.Iam from switzerland.Yesterday I bought a 1998 Honda Nsr 125R.its JC22E.Motor is very good condition.But the only problem is,itsnot starting.It was sitting for a year,nobody ride or run it for along time.But now I try to run it but I cant.
First,battery was empty.I change battery and now has good energy.When I turned to key,I can see Neutral and Side stand lamp.And I try to run it,its engaging,everything normal but not running.Tank is full for a year.And I controlled the ignition,its normal.when I plug out spark plug cable,I can see spark.I cleaned filter.Tomorrow morning I will plug out spark plug and clean or change it.But although I wanted to ask you,why dont this motorbike running? And when I take off seat,I saw 2 cable (orange-white) which is not connected.these are located under the passenger seat.what are these cables? Thanks for your help


Well, considering its been sitting for a while its probably worth draining the tank and cleaning it out with some paraffin. Just put some paraffin in, slosh it around and then fill the tank up again with fresh petrol. If I were you id change the two stroke whilst I was as it but it probably wouldn't make a difference as oil lasts ages.

You'll also probably need to clean out the carb as its probably gummed up. Go to your local auto parts store and get some carb cleaner (I use STP), take the carb out and start CAREFULLY stripping it down. You'll want to soak the jets (main and idle) and the jet carrier in STP and then blast through them with compressed air (If you dont have an air compressor then air in a can will work ok). Clean out the float bowl and generally give the carb a clean.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 16 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Nsr 125 not starting Reply with quote
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firatcck wrote:
Hello everyone.Iam from switzerland.Yesterday I bought a 1998 Honda Nsr 125R.its JC22E.Motor is very good condition.But the only problem is,itsnot starting.It was sitting for a year,nobody ride or run it for along time.But now I try to run it but I cant.
First,battery was empty.I change battery and now has good energy.When I turned to key,I can see Neutral and Side stand lamp.And I try to run it,its engaging,everything normal but not running.Tank is full for a year.And I controlled the ignition,its normal.when I plug out spark plug cable,I can see spark.I cleaned filter.Tomorrow morning I will plug out spark plug and clean or change it.But although I wanted to ask you,why dont this motorbike running? And when I take off seat,I saw 2 cable (orange-white) which is not connected.these are located under the passenger seat.what are these cables? Thanks for your help


Well, considering its been sitting for a while its probably worth draining the tank and cleaning it out with some paraffin. Just put some paraffin in, slosh it around and then fill the tank up again with fresh petrol. If I were you id change the two stroke whilst I was as it but it probably wouldn't make a difference as oil lasts ages.

You'll also probably need to clean out the carb as its probably gummed up. Go to your local auto parts store and get some carb cleaner (I use STP), take the carb out and start CAREFULLY stripping it down. You'll want to soak the jets (main and idle) and the jet carrier in STP and then blast through them with compressed air (If you dont have an air compressor then air in a can will work ok). Clean out the float bowl and generally give the carb a clean.

Good luck!





Thank you for your quick reply.Today I pulled out filter box and then carb.I opened inside of carb,pulled out main jet.As you said,I bought a cleaner and cleaned everywhere.filter tank and carb.I couldnt find 22 mm allen for spark plug,but I will.then I will try again.I am sending you two photo,do you know whats these orange cables?Thanks
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 17 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
firatcck is right about cleaning carb , fit a new sparkplug but not a BR9ECS which is bull shit buy a BR9EIX
the 2 loose wires comes from the CDI (which is marked CI626A) and are used in germany to connect a "drossel" which limit the speed at 80Km/H . under german laws the NSR125R equiped with that can be ridden by 16 teenagers
the CDI is fully restricted as the CI639 is
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 17 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi firatcck. Don't know if this will help but I have an unresticted JC22 cdi unit, And unresticted valve controller available if you need them. All working perfect and cheap.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi. I am looking for £130 for the two items + £8 postage if interested.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
i enquiered as you said CHEAP lol
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
bouncerdove wrote:
Hi. I am looking for £130 for the two items + £8 postage if interested.
Regards bouncerdove


Well, the £8 postage to switzerland is VERY cheap. The CDI not so much.

This sort of stuff is usually done in PM's out of courtesy to other members.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi. Tried to do via pm but computer crashed and could not find any referance to the email. Sorry.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi again. The price I stated was not just for the cdi but the rv controller as well. Far less than I paid on Ebay for them.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
still stipidly priced tbh mate
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi. No problem. Just buy them cheeper elsewhere then.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 21 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
you dont need to change the RC/valves controler (it's a TV78) but if your bike is 1998 & later , you may have a shunt on the servo-motor , see pict
just need to take off the shunt on connector #3
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 03 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
alains wrote:
you dont need to change the RC/valves controler (it's a TV78) but if your bike is 1998 & later , you may have a shunt on the servo-motor , see pict
just need to take off the shunt on connector #3


Thanks everybody for your reply.I already disconnected as you said Alains.I bought 138,42,65 Nsr Jet kit from Marc Cooper who works dellorto, and also I bought BR9EIX spark.so,I disconnected the restriction plate inside of intake,I cleaned carb and tank as you said.Now my motorbike runs,but not properly.I wait 5 minutes for warm engine,its smoke,I ride 15 20 minutes but still has smoke.and when I try to accelereta,its difficult to accelerate,motor has alot of vibration during acceleration.Idle position no vibration,but during neutral,when I try to acelerate with right hand,it has alot of vibration.And I couldnt see 8000 9000 rpm because of vibration.I dont know what is the problem.You are the god of Nsr Alains,I really need your special answers.I hope I can find a solution.Maybe You can say me its bec of mixture settings,but I cant find mixture screw.Actually,I know which one is pilot screw,but I cant find a screwdriver for tune.You can see what I say in pictures.Ithas special screw.Do you think that its normal? or which screw should I buy for mixture set in future? Thanks
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PostPosted: 01:59 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Vibration is only when revs are high yes?

If you put the back wheel on a stand or in the air, and then rev the bike, what happens?
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
1) adjust oil pump (ask if you need instructions)
2) inside the reeds block is a white plastic part , did you put it back ? (spare with a red point)
only the spare #3 must be thrown out
this plastic block avoid mixture turbulences when coming from a round going to a square
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
st3v3 wrote:
Vibration is only when revs are high yes?

If you put the back wheel on a stand or in the air, and then rev the bike, what happens?


Either neutral or ride I feel vibration.Every time has vibration.I m not sure whats problem.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
alains wrote:
1) adjust oil pump (ask if you need instructions)
2) inside the reeds block is a white plastic part , did you put it back ? (spare with a red point)
only the spare #3 must be thrown out
this plastic block avoid mixture turbulences when coming from a round going to a square


1) I saw your another post so learned how I adjust the oil pump Smile

2) Yes I put it back what you said.Only disconnected the number 3.

Today I saw another problem.There is no gearbox oil inside of engine.When I checked the oil indicator,there is no oil inside of gearbox.Maybe it can provide vibration what I said.Tomorrow I will buy gearbox oil.So Alains,what do you think about my carb mixture screw? is it normal?
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 12 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi again,Today I have different problem Smile
When I want to turn left,I press left turn signal button,but my all turn signals are lighting.Its same with right button.I couldnt solve this problem,maybe its bec of flasher relay.I tried every way but problem persist.Can anyone help me?
Thanks
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