Taking the move from a 50cc scooter to a proper 125cc

[acheet94]

Ok, so on my 16th birthday i passed my CBT and my parents would only buy me a cheap 50cc scooter so i have been riding that for almost a year and a half but they have said they will now pay to get me a 125cc motorbike, i would say i am road confident on my scooter but a move is definately needed not just to get rid of the L plates but also to get the woman

So, first i have never riden a geared bike, let alone a 125cc bike, first of all i want to know what is the best way to get used to a geared bike as i have not bought anything yet and will only do so once i have enough info, ie where is the best place to find a 125cc geared bike i am able to ride and where is the best place to ride it where there will be very little or no traffic at all.

Secondly, what brands should i be looking for because i am at college and looks are everything so i want a good brand and a good looking model of bike produced by them, before anyone asks how much can i spend there max is about £1400 and they are willing to insure and tax it for me with comp insurance just incase i crash into a car or other vehicle.


So i need answers and i need a way to drive a 125cc bike before i make a decision about what i buy?

[felicity]

Why not get a proper licence? That will teach you how to ride a geared bike, and you won't need to mess with L-plates or the 125cc limit either. You can probably pick up a decent bigger bike for less than you'd pay for a 125, and the insurance will be less too.

[FerretFing]

Those L plates will drive the women wild!!!!!! Might as well stick them on your pants mate

[hedgehugger]

If you've had a CBT for 18 months it will either need renewing soon, or you go for lessons and test.
Alternatively you could just do another CBT but this time on a geared bike.

[acheet94]

OK put it this way, my parent will only buy me a 125cc scooter or a 125cc geared bike, so i want to know what brands are worth looking at and also where is the best type of place to learn to ride a geared bike?

Also BTW my learner license and CBT state that whilst i am 17 the biggest bike i can ride is a 125cc learner leagal amount of HP i cant remember atm what it is but that doesnt matter.

AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT BIKES BIGGER THAN 125CC MY CBT EXPIRES ON MY 18th BIRTHDAY SO I WANT TO HAVE A FULL LICENSE AND A 125CC BY THEN.

[felicity]

[goto10]

[acheet94]

sorry guys i forgot to mention this and it was probably omething i should have at first but they are willing to buy me a 125cc bike for christas and then pay for a few lessons and tests for birthday in may 2012 as they want me to get an idea of what it is like driving a 125cc bike before putting money on my test that i might fail if i dont have n
any experience on a geared bike.

[hedgehugger]

I guess you could .....
buy a 125 geared bike, read up on how to ride one, Take it slowly out of your driveway onto the road and teach yourself gears.

Get a friend with a 125 and hope he's nice enough to 'give you a go' (not in a gay way!! )

Take the CBT and learn gears on the schools bike.

Take lessons.

(am I repeating myself? )

[felicity]

In that case just do another CBT on a geared bike. It'll still be valid by the time you come to do the test, so you won't have to do another one.

[FerretFing]

It's possible you could get a go on a geared bike through this

https://www.geton.co.uk/

[acheet94]

Thanks for your advice i think i am going to take a lesson on a geared bike at a motorcycle school to see what driving a geared bike is like and also to learn how to drive one at the same time and also buy a 125cc geared bike bike all around the same sort of time, then i am going to drive on L plates for 6 months and get used to riding the bike i have found out that yamaha, suzuki and honda are good brands to look for with first geared bike so i will have a look at those.

I hope i did not annoy anyone with my newbie responses

[nop]

Bro, sink your money STRAIT into a bike course. It will cost you around £500. This will get you a FULL (A restricted) license. This leaves you £900 to get a pimpin' bike and insurance.

Trust me, you will get a whole fuck-ton more sweet ass bike and pussy when you are looking at cycles ABOVE 125.

[acheet94]

[felicity]

[acheet94]

ok so about the lesson i have a one of these near by so i can get a free 1hr learn to ride a motorbike lesson here:

https://www.geton.co.uk/content/whats-it-all-about

that would mean i would not have to do another CBT but i might do one depending on how much money i am able to put towards a one of those 4 day courses because i have had a look at them and most include a CBT on the first day which would mean i wouldnt need to do one seperately.

and i have just had a look on auto trader and i have found exactly the type of looking bike i want, its brand new and in my budget what do you people think about it:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201129403848928/sort/priceasc/usedbikes/learner-legal/y/price-to/2000/cc-from/125cc/maximum-age/up_to_4_years_old/body-type/super_moto/price-from/500/cc-to/125cc/maximum-mileage/up_to_5000_miles/radius/60/postcode/al60ty/page/1?logcode=p


would you say this bike is alright?

[felicity]

[acheet94]

Ok as stated in my first posts i am at college and i have literally not even started saving any money to put towards anything as i am planning on going into further education when i finish college to get as many IT qalifications as i can before i start looking for jobs so get the best payed job i can so paying for anything myself is very unlikely and what is wrong with getting a new bike if i crash it i would have have thought that the comprehensive insurance my parents would get me would cover a replacement if i wrote it off or any required repairs if i droped it etc...?

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[felicity]

[Paulington]

If you parents are willing to spend up to £1400 on a new bike, let me break that down into a slightly more effective spend than a 125cc:

Test + training: £400. This is probably good enough for up to two days training.

IF insurance is seperate from that £1400, then for £1000 you can get a CRACKER of a new 'big' bike, an 600cc bandit, an older 600cc Hornet, a newer 500cc parallel twin or maybe an old YZF600R/CBR600F.

Remember, with a full licence you can ride ANY MOTORCYCLE YOU LIKE but it has to be restricted to 33bhp (can be done via any means) before you can legally ride it, for older bikes like you are looking at this is usually a £10 set of washers to go in the carbs.

If it isn't seperate, you will probably be looking around a half/half split between insurance and bike, think like a 1990-1995 Diversion or something, just take a look around and see what you can find for your budget that you like the look of.

It's probably better to do this if the £1400 is seperate from insurance, surely you can get some money from selling your existing scooter too? I think if you can get that budget up to £2000 for test, training, bike and insurance you'd be sorted with a decent first 'big' bike.

If that isn't possible then you could get a 125cc (GET A GEARED, if you want to go ANYWHERE with motorcycling, GET A GEARED!) to get on with until you can get the budget up a bit, but as soon as you have the money (including sale of the 125cc) GET IT DONE, you will thank your past-self in the future for doing so.

You can sell it to your parents too with the whole extra training thing too, you will be 'safer' on the roads with the extra training a licence has and no 'L' plates etc.

Also, get an older bike, you are having a laugh with getting a new bike, firstly, any new bike you will get for £1400 is only likely to last a year, secondly, a new bike being dropped will cost a fortune to fix and look naff whereas an older bike will cost almost nothing to fix and look pretty much the same.

Thirdly, the comprehensive insurance your parents will buy you, you're having a laugh right? Do you have ANY idea what comprehensive insurance will cost on a new 125cc at your age? It will cost more than the motorcycle, maybe even double the price of it so you're looking at £1400-£2800+.

If you did drop it and write it off and get a replacement through insurance, you realise that you wouldn't get insurance on any 'big' bike for the next few years? That £1400 they pay out for a new bike, they will want it back plus interest for having to pay it out so your insurance will SKYROCKET for the next few years, the point is a new bike is not worth it.

You'll do fine, best of luck! !
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[Paivi]