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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Booger Reply with quote

Failed MOT on one missing reflector and one small crack in the frame, around the dent. Neutral

The tester says it will be ok welded though and he's told me where I can get it done, should only cost a few quid.
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iCraig
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of a bugger when things fail.

Last time my GS would have failed on not having the reflector, but the tester stuck one on and passed it Very Happy.
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stryker
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope this makes you feel better.... so here is my story.

I bought a trike almost 18 months ago. A few months back, noticed the MOT was due to being the good citizen I booked an MOT.

My trike failed the MOT because the number plate was a little to low (meaning it was obscured to any police midgets) and it had no rear reflectors. Also the copper fuel line in one place was at risk of being compromised by vibration against the frame.

I fixed said problems and only when they saw the previous mot cert they realised as my Q plate trike was classed as a new vehicle, it did not need an MOT till it was 3 years old! DOH!

Still getting it checked over next year tho!
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ratcliffe
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for reminding me, my first MOT on Rosie is due soon. Darn. Mind you it should fly through, I'd be surprised if it didn't. More worrying is the fact that I flew through the 12000 mile barrier on the Isle of Man and now I need to find about 250+ quid for an expensive BMW service!
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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, today I whipped the fairing off and had a proper look. It still didn't seem like a crack to me. Anyway, off I toddle to the alloy welder that I was recommended. He had a poke around it and decided that it wasn't a crack at all, just a crease. He said he could have a go at putting a weld on it but it wouldn't be easy and wasn't needed.

Back to the MOT tester, told him what the welder bloke had said and he proceeded to poke and scratch at it with a screwdriver. He was still adamant that it was a crack though.

I decided to take it to another tester for a second (well, third actually) opinion. I told him the story before he saw it, so I wasn't hiding anything from him. He says that he can't see a crack (and he's younger with better eyes than the first one Razz ) and he will certainly pass it on the frame. Its all booked in for thursday, and they even gave me a reflector for the back. Thumbs Up

Thats the first and last time I use the first place I went to.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. Smile Did do a fair bit of looking into it when I got it and everywhere said as long as there is no crack (which there isn't, or not unless you've been to the G school of how to do wheelies maybe Razz) it'd be fine. Other thing if they are being arsey about it could put those tarty carbon fibre frame covers on it to hide it. Smile
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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

He did suggest that I got the dent filled and then the frame painted. Bollocks to that - far more hassle than its worth.

The carbon protectors have been considered, but I've not been able to find them for the bike (only Yam's, oddly enough) and TBH don't think I can be arsed spending the cash on them.
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iCraig
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found some MoT Testers find problems with vehicles just to try and get money out of you.
They think if they say its failed you'll say fix it for me etc, or recommend you to someone else they know and they get commision or something.

I always found Riossi to be good at doing MoT's, they failed things for a reason and not just stupid ones like bulbs or anything.
They'd pass it and then tell you and then not even charge you for the bulb! Pity Riossi are now gone Sad.

Though the Hells Angel that owns the garage I now go to is not really arsed and passes most things Very Happy.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly daft of them suggesting you fill it and paint over it, as what would that actually do other than make it look like there isn't anything these. Laughing

Art do the carbon frame cover things for '99 bikes and am pretty certain the frame is the same on '99 and on '01 as pretty much everything else is other than the fairing and headlight. Although £60 for a tarty bit of carbon fibre is slightly daft. Laughing
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karen_moomin
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remind me not to take my NSR to those sharks for its MOT Col. Bar-stards.

It doesn't look like a crack to me either. I agree with Craig that they are probably on commission or something, or maybe they are miserable gits who like failing everyone to make them feel better.
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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Slightly daft of them suggesting you fill it and paint over it, as what would that actually do other than make it look like there isn't anything these. Laughing

Although £60 for a tarty bit of carbon fibre is slightly daft. Laughing


Thats what I thought - on both counts.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

God damn!!!

This guy has said the steering head bearings are too rough. I give up. Evil or Very Mad
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karen_moomin
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you going to do then?? We need it to pass so we can go to France Crying or Very sad
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Robby
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Head bearings are easy and cost about 60 quid.
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M1ke
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can borrow my rgv for the france trip Razz
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dibbster
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely you need a friendly MOTer! Laughing

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Bike MOT`s £12 for BCF members pm me for bookings

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Ste
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

As useful as slightly dodgy MOT's are, having a bike to be road worthy and MOT standard is a fairly useful thing to have most of the time. Confused

Head bearings as robby said aren't too much hassle .Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As useful as slightly dodgy MOT's are, having a bike to be road worthy and MOT standard is a fairly useful thing to have most of the time.


Yes I agree and was only joking.

Isn't it bizarre how each MOT person seems to be identifying something different wrong with the bike, 1st not happy with frame, 2nd happy with frame but not with head bearings. It could go on and on.......
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Ste
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The frame AFAIK isn't a MOT failure, I owned the bike before McJam and did a lot of looking into the whole MOT with dented frame issue and everywhere I spoke to said it wasn't an issue. Does seem slightly dodgy them saying we'll fail it because of the dent but we'll pass it if you put poly filler in it and paint it. Laughing

Head bearing are do need changing every so often, and that bike spent a bit of it's life not using both wheels which generally does wear the head bearings more. Might be worth seeking Keith's thoughts on the head bearings and either adjusting or changing them. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Loose bearings are easy to adjust, but if they are notchy then they probably need replacing.

Cannot say I noticed them being dodgy when I rode it a few weeks back.

All the best

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