Few quesstions

[steve09]

Hi firstly id like to thank the Gsxr 600 rider who wqas riding too mersham from ashford kent today..
the mersham road is tiny and he passed me i was doing about 25mph on a slow bit on my 50cc and he passed then i sped up and kept up with him round all these tight twistys and small straghts (he lost me abit on them) then at the cross road he went one way me another and he fliped up his visor and said "Nice riding son. cya around" and roared off hehe.. made my day
i dont mean tht to sound like some chavvy claiming hisa bike beat a 600cc the roads were small very twiasty and narrow i think the fastest i went was about 35-40mph him like wise..

right now tio the questions
1)whats the best geared 50 to get if i dont wana spend lots but still wana see a decent ish speed.

2) i know its illegal but the man a few doors down from me (sorta know as the local idoit) recons when he was 16 he had a 125 Dt or somthing becuase they were cheaper at thre time than the RS50 ect then he put a 50cc head on it or somthing got a garage to right him some certificate then he foned up the DVLA got it re registered as a 50 then blamed the 125 top end back in..
can this be done??

cheers
steve

[hustler]

Steve just shows what nice people GSXR riders are all bikers tend to have time for people in my experience what ever they ride.

Simply don't waste your money on a 50, save it for your test and a bigger better bike.
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[r1_lad]

I remember back when i was 16 and riding a rs50, i asked a bloke at a petrol station near boxhill on a gixxer thou if he'd take me up the road on the back of his bike (fully expecting him to tell me to sod off!). To the envy of all my mates he did.
He was "the man" for weeks!

I agree with hustler, there really isn't much point spending megabucks on tuning a 2stroke unless you have unlimited supply of cash and are prepared for it to blow up every few thousand miles. I'd get myself geared 50 if i were you and get used to riding a geared bike ready for when your 17 and can afford a rs/mito.

[steve09]

yer ok maybe an old rd or dt.
ive also seen lots of cheap nsrs but there advertised as 80s r these just Big bored or are they like tht standard.

[Ste]

As far as I know there has never been an NSR50 (or 80) so am not really sure what those are.

You'll be able to pick up for a few hundred an old geared unfaired 50cc bike which will do 50mph, you can spend more and get a little bit more speed but 50cc's are not fast so it's really not worth spending the money on a 55mph 50cc unless you've got the money to waste. And it isn't worh getting one with a fairing as the bike will get dropped and the fairing will cost lots to repair and you'll lose lots when selling it, so again not worth it unless you've got the money to waste (as you won't get anything near to what you pay for it when you come to sell it).

I'm sure you could fit a smaller engine to a 125 if you really want to, but will cost stupid amounts of money and it will be quite obvious to anyone that the bike has a 125 engine in it so save your money on the insurance, just print yourself a cover note out of Word as it will be just as much use (can be used in producers but no more valid or likely to get a pay out than a policy which you pay £££ for). He didn't phone the DVLA up, you have to fill out paperwork so if he is saying it was done over the phone I'd take everything he says about it with slight mis-trust.

Best bet, have a look at Ad Trader and pick up a cheap geared unfaired 50cc, use it, when you're 17 get a 125 then do your test. You can always get a RS50 type bike or a 125 and change it to a 50cc engine but this will all cost stupid amounts of money so only do it if you've got the money to throw away (as you'll never get close to what you have to spend back).

[steve09]

cheers for advice ste.
thanks everyo0ne else too.
when u said unfaired 50 u mean like a DT,RD,Ar sorta thing??
also i was under the impression that when i turn 17 i could do a test and then ride 33bhp restricted is this not the case do i have to do another year on a 125??

[Ste]

Yeah, something like the DT, RD, AR or TS is the sort of thing.

Once you're 17 you can do your A2 test (restricted access) which entitles you to ride any bike and it has to be restricted to under 33bhp for the first two years after you do your test, and after the two years have passed you can legally ride any sized bike of any power. You don't have to even sit on a 125 other than to do your test, most people do move up and get one and use it for a bit before doing your test, but there isn't any reason really why you can learn everything on the 50cc (general road sense, emergency stop, U turn and general test riding) and when you're 17 do a course with a training school where they get you up to standard on a 125 and then do your test (a couple of days, just like a DAS course but different bike and test) and then go straight into having a 33bhp bike and missing the whole 125 bit out. Goose on here did that, he went from an SR50 ped, did some intensive training and then did his test and then got a CBR250 and had no problems so it is worth considering.

[stinkwheel]

You are probably thinking of the Kawasaki AR50 which would take an 80 or 125 top-end. There used to be a roaring trade in bolting C50 side panels to C70s at one point too.

Do not buy a bike that has has this done, chances are the work was carried out by an inexpert 16 year old and will cause you no-end of headaches. Add to this the fact that if you have an accident and the bizzies start sniffing about, you have just copped a ban for riding outwith the limits of your licence and without insurance (which would be invalid)
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