Hazard Perception Rant

[loply]

I passed my theory test today - 100% on the questions, 44/75 for the HPT (44 is pass mark).

On my car test I got 65/75 on HPT.

I have considered it and length and I am now positive that hazard perception is completely and totally inaccurate in its assesment.

I clicked for every single developing hazard with loads of time to spare, I should clearly have got 75/75 for that test.

But the algorithms simply cant be programmed to see that. I was probably clicking before the computer registered it as being a hazard - So I was sometimes clicking again closer to the time to make sure.

Its just fucking useless. Such a waste of time and it really doesnt achieve anything.

Ive been driving for 3 years and have had no accidents, I insist that I clicked for every single hazard with tons of time to spare, and yet I only just scraped the pass mark.


PILE OF BULLSHIT. We might as well play space invaders with a blindfold on and use that as a hazard perception mark.

[zaknafien]

[annndy]

I understand what your saying but...


you passed, be happy!
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[tony532]

erm.. it's all about making money

[shorty]

Completely agree mate, I did mine with 10 years of driving experience and got 46!! If I had of failed I would have asked for a complete breakdown of when I clicked and where the hazard was.

That is the main problem with the hazard perception test - it is of no help unless someone tells inexperienced drivers where the hazards were so they can see what they missed.

I wrote to Top Gear just after I did mine suggesting that they get a group of people to do the test;

A motor racing driver of any discipline
A police driver
A highly experienced driver
A driver with less than a years experience
A learner driver
and a bloke just randomly clicking

and see what the results were. I'd guess that the randomly clicking guy would pass!!

Still at least you passed it!!

Shorty

[loply]

to the HPT test.


Absolute waste of time, completely insane.


Its 100% to do with the way you manipulate the programs algorithms and 0% to do with perceiving hazards.

[madcyril]

I totally agree its a complete waste of resources , and really just a cash cow . When i did mine i just clicked every 3 or 4 seconds and when i definately saw a hazard i clicked twice , got 66 but it was complete bollocks.

[Mister James]

I did it on wednesday - passed with 58 marks, but yeah, it seemed pretty confused and random to me. I'm fairly sure I clicked in plenty of time for everything, and like you, I wasnt sure if I had clicked before the program started the 5 point countdown for each hazard.

It doesnt help that the explanations and examples aren't all that clear either.

Ho hum - DAS next weekend

[Keith]

I only just passed myself a few weeks ago, 47 i got.

When I got the form back, it said I scored zero on 2 of the clips but I was positive I would of done better than that.

Never mind though, a pass is a pass to me so be happy and get your bike test passed next.
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[John]

I would agree.

I got a better mark the first time I did it, then the second after I'd had a year on the road.
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[stryker]

Hazard perception requires understanding and interpretation of your results..... something no computer is going to be capable of doing for some time yet.

[funmonkee]

Slight OT for this post:-

Does anyone here know if I have to take the theory (and HPT) again? I took my car test about 2 years ago in a 4.0 Jeep and passed. My theory test for the car is now over 2.5 years old. I took my theory test for the Full bike direct access thing about two months ago, passed and done the practical and passed. Now I'm bored and want to take the car test, but this time manual (4 litre jeeps are automatic). My question is - do I have to take another theory test....arrgh!!!!!
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[Gti]

[VTR SP1]

GTi,
My mum has not had an accident in a car for 20 years but when she is driving she is in a world of her own. In her little bubble. Hazard perception......what hazard perception.
So does the fact she has not had a crash mean she should get 75/75. How long you have been driving a car don't mean zip.

[loply]

VTR SP1, have you done the HPT test?


To give you an example you see on the video a car pulling up to the junction 100m ahead... I know the make, model and colour of the car, and I know its going to pull out... I saw it with hundreds of meters to spare.

But when do I click? I clicked when I saw it hundreds of meters away, and also when it started to move.

And I just passed? I simply could not have spotted the car earlier... Why did I just scrape a pass?

Thats my point. You seem to have misunderstood my rant. There wasnt a single hazard video which I didnt predict with a sigh and theyre so obvious, its just so confusing what youre supposed to do about it (with the mouse)...

[VTR SP1]

No I havent done that test but there was a hazard preception part of the theory test when I did it. I have done other similar tests.

Is it possible you were looking at the obvious hazard and not a more subtle one?

Anyway, as I said well done for passing.

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Its so easy you have to click a few times, just in case you clicked too early, and the computer didnt even "register" as the start of the potential hazard.

I think it is for the very silly people, or the people that really have no clue, or complete beginners. There are these kinds of people around. But then surley you should have had some lessons before you go for the theory test, so you would pretty much know them all anyway.

If its so easy stop complaining, doent matter if you will ace it anyway. . Just "play" it right, and its really easy. I can see how it can help some people, most are good enough. I think if you prepare for it, using the CD it may help you to get to know road situations, which would be useful for a new rider/driver. Preparing is where you would learn all the stuff, not passing the HPT... well that and on the road.

Haha the car drives so slowly! Like 10mph. . then, for example some stupid dumb horse pops out round the corner. hehe.

[ian_s]

[kevingranger]

the hazard is shite. i got 61 on my bike test and 39 on my car one both times i thought i did about the same on both ones but the score is 22 marks out. i couldnt have gotten that worse all of a sudden could i. i gota fork out another £20 now

kev
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[RealNinja]

I bought the C.D's for my better half when she was learning for her bike theory, and for a bit of light relief, used to 'play' them myself.

The fact that I never got into the 70's was a bit worrying as far as i'm concerned.

The problem is that you lose points when you continually click the mouse, BUT how can you be sure that you clicked on the hazard that the system wanted you to click on?!

Good example of this was when I was watching one going down a terraced road, with cars parked on either side (hazard enough in my book) approached a junction on the left (hazard) someone got into one of the cars,passenger side (hazard, the driver might pull out) and then turned left at a junction on the end of the road (hazard, remember there are cars parked on both sides of the road) and towards a pedestrian crossing (hazard) where some birds flew off from the road.

The hazard it wanted?

The bloody birds!

I'm so glad I didn't have to do it, it's just too random!
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