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matlow
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: 954 Will it cut the mustard Reply with quote

After a short break from biking I have the funds to get back into it, my problem is that My last bike was an 09 blade that I loved, a lot. The snag is that my budget this time round is about 3k give or take. Now thats enough to get a decent bike but will it be a disappointment after the blade?
My thinking behind the 954 was that it's got a great reputation, was only in production for a couple of years, future classic?
Are the older 900's really that for off a modern litre bike?

Would a R1 be a better bet? Apparently decent mid range on the 02 R1
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used 954's still command decent second hand prices for a reason, I would have thought.
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon you might be surprised in a good way. I was very hesistant to take the GSX1250 out thinking it'd be pants compared to the RR, and that's not even a sports bike.

I'd have a guess at saying a nicely setup 954 might feel better on a lot of the roads bearing in mind the state of them. I feel from 2005 onwards most bikes started to get very track focused which hasn't helped with the condition of the roads, going for a bike designed to be a fast roadbike might be nicer.

I love my RR but on bumpy B-Roads it can get very skittish, being honest and looking at my riding the GSX works better for me 'most' of the time while the RR is only really fun on the right road at the right time.

All these things are opinionated though, are there any in dealers near you? Maybe give one a test ride.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading between the lines: "Wa Wa Wa, 130bhp is not enough. Wa Wa Wa, I need 170bhp"

Get over yourself. If you've had any kind of break from biking, the 954 will feel like a rocket ship and you'll love it.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy a K1/K2 GSXR1000.

Then with the change do some trackdays.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: 954 Will it cut the mustard Reply with quote

matlow wrote:

Are the older 900's really that for off a modern litre bike?

Yes. Maybe less so if you make decent use of any bike - as frankly 600s aren't that far off litre bikes when pushing it.
I'd go for the R1 or the GSXR1000.
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matlow
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Reading between the lines: "Wa Wa Wa, 130bhp is not enough. Wa Wa Wa, I need 170bhp"

Get over yourself. If you've had any kind of break from biking, the 954 will feel like a rocket ship and you'll love it.


Where did I make any reference to power? Theres weight to be considered and handling, how much of which on the newer blade is down to steering geometry and a snazzy electronic steering damper. Power is a consideration Because its one of the things I love about a bike.
It's a discussion forum, I'm discussing bikes. Your probably right that after a break the 954 will feel quick, cheers for adding to the discussion.

Wa wa recession wa wa interest rates, there's what I'm crying about!

Robbie, your probs right, but a part of it for me is aesthetics and im just not blown away by the gsxf.

Hmm 954 a future classic then?
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest mate, I'm happy with a "130hp" GSXR750. Its not as mental straight line as a litre bike, but its far better than a 600 in terms of you dont need to keep it wound up for there to be power.

I doubt I'll ever use a litre bike again, very very happy with a 750. Also doubt I'll go near a 600 sports again either.

You mention weight and handling... again, I haven't had much experience with larger bikes, but the 750 pulls really well and handles like a 600.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Just buy a K1/K2 GSXR1000.

Then with the change do some trackdays.


Agreed! forget the 954 mate.....
k1/k2 gsxr 1000 all the way, comfy, gallons of Torque, but easy to ride ( within reason !) and still turns your stomach upside down. A hell of alot of bike for that money imo
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who says they need more than 130bhp for the road is a liar.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Robbie, your probs right, but a part of it for me is aesthetics and im just not blown away by the gsxf.


Sorry i didnt mean get a GSX, for what you're after I wouldn't bother. Just saying an older blade might soak road up better than a newer, more track focused one.

I only got a GSX because I wanted a commuter/decent two up with luggage ride for going on longer trips with my other half - and getting that mean't I could keep the 600RR Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need at least 131 hp for the road. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you can strech to another 500 squids you could get a k5/k6 gsxr, seen a few around as low as that, super light weight, and last thou produced before the emission law change if i recall
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: 954 Will it cut the mustard Reply with quote

matlow wrote:
After a short break from biking I have the funds to get back into it, my problem is that My last bike was an 09 blade that I loved, a lot. The snag is that my budget this time round is about 3k give or take. Now thats enough to get a decent bike but will it be a disappointment after the blade?
My thinking behind the 954 was that it's got a great reputation, was only in production for a couple of years, future classic?
Are the older 900's really that for off a modern litre bike?

Would a R1 be a better bet? Apparently decent mid range on the 02 R1


My 04 Blade is about to go up for sale. It's my track bike but is fully road legal, had a V5, HPI clear etc... most road parts to put back on the road apart from fairing (well, I do have a set but its currently on ebay - Chinese stuff).

Standard apart from a quickshifer a Skorpion can, and currently wearing slicks. If you can push to £3500 you can have the bike and fairing! Wink
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Anyone who says they need more than 130bhp for the road is a liar.


It's not about need. It's about want. You can use more than 130bhp on the road, albeit briefly and entirely unnecessarily.

Having said that, perfectly happy with 130 myself. But it's more about the engine than the numbers.

Back to the OP. I think the 929/954 are overrated. I'd rather have 90s model, or a 2008- model. Compared to a 2009, it'll feel very outdated. At three grand for an IL4 litre bike, a tidy Suzuki would be my choice.


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PostPosted: 20:28 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Anyone who says they need more than 130bhp for the road is a liar.

Same is true of more than 30hp really.

Or people may 'need' 170hp to achieve general ease of riding fast with the increased midrange etc - or just because they like going fast Smile.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride a 954 all year round (sun/rain/snow) and it never lets me down or fails to put a smile on my face when I get liberal with the throttle.

All the bikes mentioned above will feel unrefined in comparison to an 09 blade but you can either embrace the bikes characters or let them drive you insane.

The 954 in its day won motorcycle comparisons constantly not by beating the competition in any particular area but by being the best overal package.
Visor down shoot out
https://www.visordown.com/road-tests/road-test-cbr954rr-vs-zx-9r-v-gsx-r1000-v-yzf-r1/4496-6.html

As always you should try to sit on each bike first as what suits 1 person will not always suit you.

Try not to let people on here put you off 1 choice or the other with useless comments "Blah blah bike is shit because i said it is.. blah blah i rode it round a carpark and it couldnt wheelie off the throttle in 4th.. wank wank blah blah u should ride what i say so we can all be sheep and circle wank blah blah"

sweep
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

minesweeper wrote:

Try not to let people on here put you off 1 choice or the other with useless comments "Blah blah bike is shit because i said it is.. blah blah i rode it round a carpark and it couldnt wheelie off the throttle in 4th.. wank wank blah blah u should ride what i say so we can all be sheep and circle wank blah blah"

sweep


circle wank, lol Laughing Get a £3k loan and get an 08 blade.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Honda-Fireblade-/220884726913?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item336dc17481

or buy this extremely cheap one!
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like that bike, then buy it! A well ridden 400 will keep up with most things on most roads so don't worry about the 'lack' of power... Plus there is kudos for going well on something that isn't the latest bike imo.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 954 is an utterly fantastic bike.

gorgeous, 'best handling of the pre central mass (under-seat exhaust) blades', and incidentally, the lightest blade ever made.

took mine to Scotland and back on a 1600 mile tour and she did me proud. handles the morning commute with relish and goes like fooking stink on the w/e blasts.

a fantastic bike; it truly is.


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its funny, the CBR600 club im in all seem to be switching to 954s. i think there are about 8 of us now that have gone for them and everyone loves it
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or...
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Try not to let people on here put you on 1 choice or the other with useless comments "Blah blah bike is good because visordow said it is.. blah blah i rode it everyday and it could handle it.. wank wank blah blah u should ride what i say so we can all be sheep and circle wank blah blah"


Wink
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree with the need and want argument, Think I've convinced myself with some of these replies it's what I'm after. And the good thing with older bikes after all is that it costs a whole load less to change if it doesn't work out, And there's something about a 954 in white that works for me.

As far as suzukis go, just not for me, I've tried a few and have put a few miles on a k5 thou and find it cramped and uncomfortable. Engine is a peach and I've never heard a better standard exhaust note on an il4.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my K6 thou for comfort, but I also found I preferred an RS250 to a (slightly modified) CBR600 Smile.
However, the early GSXR1000s do have a fair bit 'bigger' feel.
I thought the blade was supposed to be pretty compact; but can't remember myself specifically how the ones from that year felt.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I like my K6 thou for comfort


Tend to agree, was probably one of the few bikes I've found comfy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a slow bike with decent suspension for a change, you might well be surprised. I find going for a thrash quite a lot more fun when I could actually thrash the bike and do the motor some justice.
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