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PostPosted: 11:25 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Suzuki quit moto GP Reply with quote

just read that they are pulling out with a possible return in 2014
wonder if anyone will run a Suzuki CRT bike
but sad to see a major factory pull out of top flight racing

https://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motogp/15789305.stm
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

There really is no point in MotoGP any more.

There are only 3 manufacturers left.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, but I think the CRT may make it interesting
Aprilia, BMW maybe a few more engines being used could make for interesting racing
esp if the conditions are poor, rain etc
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:
yes, but I think the CRT may make it interesting
Aprilia, BMW maybe a few more engines being used could make for interesting racing
esp if the conditions are poor, rain etc


The CRT bikes are way off the pace in the dry. The only way it could make for better racing is if they banned full factory bikes.

I wonder if Hopkns will be able to find a ride with a factory team now?

Also wonder what happened to their plans to run the 800cc bike next year?

It's a great shame of course. The top flight of motorcycle racing now only have Yamaha, Honda and Ducati in it. How poor is that!
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are now saying on twitter that Hopkins will sign for the Crescent suzuki WSBK team to ride alongside Leon Camier.

GP/CRT entries- https://motomatters.com/news/2011/11/17/2012_motogp_silly_season_bradl_signing_m.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MotoGPMatters+%28MotoMatters%29

If that's right I can't believe Ellison is back in! He seems to just drift from series to series, has a couple of good races then moves to another series/class.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

There will be about 12 bikes on track...hardly racing at all. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

23.
Well 12 GP bikes 4 hondas/yams/dukes and the rest made up of CRT bikes.
It will probably be a bit like when the new teams came into F1 though, they really hyped it up but who really gave a fuck if Virgin or Lotus finished 18th or 19th it made no difference to most people.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotoGP isn't even expensive.

What is it, maybe 25million a season for a top manufacturer team? That's nothing in the grand scheme of things compared to the turn over of BMW £60billion, Suzuki £15billion, Kawasaki £10billion - all companies that don't take part.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose they might feel that 25 million can be spent on more effective advertising then sitting at the back of a moto gp grid.

I think one of the big problems is the cost of leasing a bike from the factories, They were saying that you could run 9 CRT bikes for the cost of leasing 1 honda GP bike. With that in mind I can't see the likes of Gresini and LCR competing in GP for too much longer if the CRT thing takes off. The last time a non factory bike won a race was in 2006 with Toni Elias so not once in the 800 era.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 23 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd agree that it's down to cost, £25m might not sound a lot but when some of these companies, even with £10b turnover are loosing money then going racing is a luxury, especially to shareholders who at times dont think further than the end of their nose...

Anyway, I reckon given a few years it'll all be CRT, it sucks to have three factories running at the top (GP) yet tons more in Superbikes, but the investment required is significantly different for both, and superbikes might give more bang for buck on the marketing side, especially because they tie in with the road going models..

It's a shame to see Suzuki drop, partly because they'd started going somewhere and partly because the engineering team was British based so it was I suppose our local team.

However, I dont think there is anypoint in them sending an 800 round which will prob sit at the back of the 1000s once they're getting going, then sit at the back when they're learning the ropes of the 1000 and everyone has got going.

Coming back in 2014 means they can pour engine development into the GSXR lump, aim for a 210/215bhp roadbike with the ability to crank out 250+bhp in racetrim in a CRT frame, now that'd be cool. Of course that relies on CRT getting going.

I'd have liked Suzuki to fund a prototype chassis with the GSXR engine and run a CRT/Factory Hybrid, if the rules allowed it, it'd have kept them in and gave them a jump on CRT, but i'm not sure what the deal is.

More bikes on the grid is obviously better, more battles and all that kind of stuff. I still reckon next year will be good though, 1000s should make racing closer and im hoping for a ducati comeback, not just for Rossi but because with him and haydon and two satellite bikes it might mix the order up a bit.
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