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PostPosted: 10:45 - 06 Dec 2011    Post subject: The Frogs and the Bosch are balls deep in each other Reply with quote

Why did the world liberate the French from the Germans all those years ago to have them Hand in Hand today?

They can take their Europe and shove it up their arse/s.

Vichy Filth.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16045668

And all this time I was looking at the Chinks....
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 06 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow Problem: enforcing a single currency across disparate economies, crippling the weaker as they struggle to keep pace with the stronger.
Arrow Solution: tighter enforcement.

L'union fait la force! Arbeit macht frei!

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PostPosted: 12:37 - 06 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope they pull it off - Its a long term game and its nice to believe that if the euro collapsed the union would, but its not the case, the euro is something they have created with the power to collapse Our financial system, yet there powers would still stand and it would be Germany and France at the head of the table drawing up plans for a grand solution, a new system for Europe.

You will not escape a system they have created from scratch but you can get out of one there taking over, the debts? Who gives a fuck they will soon have the home on the ECBs books, country's need to leave this from a position of strength and its going to take a long, long time.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 06 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Lizard People.


Mr Lizard? [NSFW]
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 07 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget the millions of Europeans affected, the EU won’t even bother to put its attempt to seize control over member state economies to a vote amongst its own parliamentary cronies, preferring instead to change the Lisbon Treaty under powers Eurocrats granted themselves.

Having repeatedly staged national referendums until they got the vote they wanted, the Lisbon Treaty was passed with a provision, the obscure ‘passerelle’ clause, Art. 126 (14) via protocol 12, that bestowed upon Brussels the power to change its terms without any kind of vote whatsoever – popular or parliamentary.

“This decision does not require ratification at national level. This procedure could therefore lead to rapid and significant changes,” according to a confidential text issued by EU President Herman Van Rompuy.

This means that any effort to change the treaty in order to create a “fiscal union,” or in other words, impose centralized control over every member state’s economy from Brussels, would simply be accomplished with the stroke of a pen and would not involve votes from any national parliament or any MEP.

This would then empower the European Commission, “to impose austerity measures on eurozone countries that are being bailed out, usurping the functions of government in countries such as Greece, Ireland, or Portugal,” reports the Guardian.

Imagine that. A treaty that can be amended and revised without any ratification. Ahh, god bless the EU eh?

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PostPosted: 14:19 - 07 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When even the Grauniad is coming out against Europe, you know something serious is up.

Meet your President and mine, the man you didn't vote for and had never heard of, the Limp-Dishrag-in-Chief, Herman Van Rompuy...

https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Business/Pix/pictures/2011/12/6/1323182918601/Herman-Van-Rompuy-007.jpg

...the tiny grey nobody who will achieve with a rubber stamp what Napoleon and Hitler failed to do though force of arms: create a Thousand Year Union.

And like all despots, he'll do it with the best of intentions, and for the greater good.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 07 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

now I realise why I felt the need to re-read "Fatherland" this week.....
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 07 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
Forget the millions of Europeans affected, the EU won’t even bother to put its attempt to seize control over member state economies to a vote amongst its own parliamentary cronies, preferring instead to change the Lisbon Treaty under powers Eurocrats granted themselves.

Having repeatedly staged national referendums until they got the vote they wanted, the Lisbon Treaty was passed with a provision, the obscure ‘passerelle’ clause, Art. 126 (14) via protocol 12, that bestowed upon Brussels the power to change its terms without any kind of vote whatsoever – popular or parliamentary.

“This decision does not require ratification at national level. This procedure could therefore lead to rapid and significant changes,” according to a confidential text issued by EU President Herman Van Rompuy.

This means that any effort to change the treaty in order to create a “fiscal union,” or in other words, impose centralized control over every member state’s economy from Brussels, would simply be accomplished with the stroke of a pen and would not involve votes from any national parliament or any MEP.

This would then empower the European Commission, “to impose austerity measures on eurozone countries that are being bailed out, usurping the functions of government in countries such as Greece, Ireland, or Portugal,” reports the Guardian.

Imagine that. A treaty that can be amended and revised without any ratification. Ahh, god bless the EU eh?

Sick


The UK has passed the European Union Act 2011, and that is why a new or heavily modified treaty would need to have a referendum. It's a fair bet that Cameron wishes he never passed that now! The Lisbon treaty is a separate issue.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 07 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Forget the millions of Europeans affected, the EU won’t even bother to put its attempt to seize control over member state economies to a vote amongst its own parliamentary cronies, preferring instead to change the Lisbon Treaty under powers Eurocrats granted themselves.


And if it were to go through the usual process the national backlash would as usual reach no further than national parliaments, in the form of votes at the next elections.

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The reforms Chancellor Angela Merkel is pushing — hard caps on national government deficits — will ensure the ultimate demise of the euro, years of economic stagnation or worse. For many governments, those caps will be one half or even one quarter of recent annual deficits, and to comply they will dramatically raise taxes, cut spending and curtail pensions and other social benefits.


Europe is being reduced to nothing, a clear path to those doing it with all make believe democratic processes out of the picture, so there can be no confusion and no excuses, is the absolute best that can be hoped for.

Nations leave this from a place of strength or not at all.

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DAVID Cameron last night set his face against a referendum on Europe as France and Germany laid out their master plan to save the euro, including a new treaty and tougher sanctions for states flouting deficit limits.

While the Prime Minister's stance will disappoint his most eurosceptic colleagues, who want an in-out referendum, he held out the prospect that if the UK were involved in agreeing to treaty change, then there might be an opportunity to repatriate some powers, say, on employment law, away from Brussels
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 07 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Meet your President and mine, the man you didn't vote for and had never heard of, the Limp-Dishrag-in-Chief, Herman Van Rompuy...

https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Business/Pix/pictures/2011/12/6/1323182918601/Herman-Van-Rompuy-007.jpg


Just look at that face. And there's you saying that we're not run by lizards...


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PostPosted: 08:27 - 08 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameron said he would not approve anything without safe guards for London and them dropping the financial transaction tax, so the gruesome twosome sarky and meeeeeehhh meeeehhhhhhkel come out demanding harmonized taxation and a financial transaction tax to be part of the changes.

Looks like the UK will be isolated while the main club make all the rules.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 08 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad_Mushroom wrote:
Cameron said he would not approve anything without safe guards for London and them dropping the financial transaction tax, so the gruesome twosome sarky and meeeeeehhh meeeehhhhhhkel come out demanding harmonized taxation and a financial transaction tax to be part of the changes.

Looks like the UK will be isolated while the main club make all the rules.


I believe we have always been held in contemp since joining the EC (Common Market).

We don't like Foreigners and they fookurz don't like us.

If only we'd (our fathers) allowed the Nazis to run riot in the 1940s we'd be over it by now the French would be our servants and we'd all be driving Merxs, Beemirs, Oddis and Veedoubleyous. (and Porches)

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PostPosted: 20:33 - 08 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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B Germany just informed UK PM Cameron that it was adding FTT to its list of demands for treaty-change measures being addressed on Friday, December 9, 2011. Media reports included this quote, which explains the leverage that Germany can legally use. “EU nations that decide to opt out of the fiscal pact proposed by France and Germany risk being stigmatized by investors, who could decide to shun debt issued by countries that have rejected tighter collective discipline, the officials said.”



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Euro crisis: Summit abandons EU-wide treaty change

Attempts to rescue the euro will focus on a deal among the 17 nations that use the single currency, French President Nicolas Sarkozy has said
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 09 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, but no thanks Thumbs Up

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16104275
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 09 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad_Mushroom wrote:
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EU nations that decide to opt out of the fiscal pact proposed by France and Germany risk being stigmatized by investors, who could decide to shun debt issued by countries that have rejected tighter collective discipline, the officials said.”


Priceless. Our response should be "Shush, grown ups are speaking. If you say 'pretty please' maybe we'll buy up a few of these funny little 'Euro' things. If you put a Spitfire on them."
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 09 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Priceless. Our response should be "Shush, grown ups are speaking. If you say 'pretty please' maybe we'll buy up a few of these funny little 'Euro' things. If you put a Spitfire on them."


I laughed whiskey and coke out of my nose mate, painful ordeal.
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