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 Posted: 20:45 - 12 Dec 2011  Post subject: Riding legally |
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I am wondering if there is anywhere i can ride a 600 legally without full licence. i have provis and CBT and I'm currently riding a 125 but recently got a ninja 6 to do up for my 21st in July. it didn't take anywhere near as long as i thought and most of the work is done now so I'm itching to have a go to see how it rides and up my confidence for DAS. Unfortunately I'm too sensible to risk my life and licence riding it on the roads  so is there anywhere i could go to ride it legally. without mot tax insurance licence etc like just pay a one off fee and play on a track for a day. most of the ones i have seen need full licence or competition licence. are there any private ones or whatever? |
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| Posted: 20:51 - 12 Dec 2011 Post subject: |
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Without the licence, tax, mot or insurance your options are sorely limited...
Most, if not all the track days I've looked at usually ask for a full licence before letting you out on track. So your option may be limited to riding on private land?
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Just do it. The when you see flashing blue lights you can really stretch her legs 
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| Posted: 22:35 - 12 Dec 2011 Post subject: |
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Quiet industrial estate within walking distance failing that just be patient I'm afraid would be my advice, the benefits of living near a huge abandoned pit heap with most of the old concrete road intact is something I take for granted.
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| Posted: 22:59 - 12 Dec 2011 Post subject: |
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Kind of convoluted, but...
 Pass your tests now on your 125. £121.50 of which £31 is the theory that you won't have to resit.
Ding! You now have an A license with a 25kW limit.
Buy 4 washers for a few £££, drill 20mm holes in them, insert in inlets, ding, 25kW.
Get insurance. Swinton, for example, don't distinguish between restricted and unrestricted A, and don't ask to see a copy of your license. It's quite true to say that you have an A license, and it's quite legal to ride your Ninja on it if it's <= 25kW.
Ride!
When you hit 21, pass 'Accelerated Access' (essentially just the DAS test under a different name), maybe saving yourself a day's training or so, more than the cost of getting your restricted A license. You may even get away with doing the tests on your own bike. It's supposed to be 35kW+, but if they don't ask, you don't tell.
Washers out, ride!
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| Posted: 01:26 - 13 Dec 2011 Post subject: |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | Kind of convoluted, but...
Pass your tests now on your 125. £121.50 of which £31 is the theory that you won't have to resit.
Ding! You now have an A license with a 25kW limit.
Buy 4 washers for a few £££, drill 20mm holes in them, insert in inlets, ding, 25kW.
Get insurance. Swinton, for example, don't distinguish between restricted and unrestricted A, and don't ask to see a copy of your license. It's quite true to say that you have an A license, and it's quite legal to ride your Ninja on it if it's <= 25kW.
Ride!
When you hit 21, pass 'Accelerated Access' (essentially just the DAS test under a different name), maybe saving yourself a day's training or so, more than the cost of getting your restricted A license. You may even get away with doing the tests on your own bike. It's supposed to be 35kW+, but if they don't ask, you don't tell.
Washers out, ride! |
i have been thinking about this but it would cost a lot more in the long run. plus its only a 7 month wait and restricting a ninja to 33bhp would be like having Jessica alba with no face. kinda ruins the ride. i think i know a guy who knows a guy with a track. something to work on. |
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| madmax123 wrote: | i have been thinking about this but it would cost a lot more in the long run. plus its only a 7 month wait and restricting a ninja to 33bhp would be like having Jessica alba with no face. kinda ruins the ride. i think i know a guy who knows a guy with a track. something to work on. |
To be honest I doubt it would cost a lot more in the long run.
Roger said the cost of the A2 Test and if you need to do a theory there is that too, plus the cost of restriction which if is done with washers in the carb is next to nothing, then once you pass that you have seven long months to gain experience riding, then when you are 21 pay for one day of training then your test.
If you wait until you are 21, you'll have to do training on the centre's bike plus the test on their bike and depending on your training requirement that can cost anywhere from £200-£600 if not more!
If I were you I'd do the A2 then the Accelerated Access as there is literally no-where you can use your motorcycle apart from private land you or someone who gives you permission to use it owns and riding a bike on a track is a heck of a lot different from riding on the road and you'll likely pick up a lot of bad habits in doing so.
Do a day of training on a 125cc + both modules and theory if you need it, seven months of practice, then a day of training if you feel you need it + your accelerated access, I'd expect it to be cheaper in the long run really, plus you get more experience on your motorcycle and you get on it sooner!
Hope that helps.  !
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| Posted: 09:36 - 13 Dec 2011 Post subject: |
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| madmax123 wrote: | i have been thinking about [doing A2 on my own bike] but it would cost a lot more in the long run. |
How so? It might actually save you some, if you sit your Accelerated Access on your own "35kW+" bike, with the appropriate amount of winking.
| madmax123 wrote: | plus its only a 7 month wait |
I thought you were in a hurry to ride it?
| madmax123 wrote: | and restricting a ninja to 33bhp would be like having Jessica alba with no face. kinda ruins the ride. |
At the moment you're banging Susan Boyle, so you might want to consider your grounds for being picky. It's probably not an ideal bike to restrict, but it's still going to get to around 100mph, be a lot more capable than your 125, plus you ditch the L plates and can take pillion candy. What's not to like about that for a net cost of £91 including the washers?
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