Brake fade

[BigGeeking]

Hi all well going home this morning from a night shift and well had some fun and being a bit silly thinking about it but after some very heavy braking from high speed a couple of times and the brake fade was unreal at one point it just give up.

Know i know that the very high temps you get when heave braking but why do the brakes go like that, what causes it. is it gasses between the pads and disk or is it something else
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[fatpies]

How old is your brake fluid?

Could be water in the brake fluid boiling off from the heat on the discs thus making them fade badly.
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[BigGeeking]

[BigGeeking]

so as always google knows all

Green Fade
Green fade is the most common. It is the result of new brake pads being fitted. New brake pads need time to cure, a process which happens naturally through use, before they become fully effective. If they are not fully cured, they can release gases under the heat of intense braking and those gases form a cushion which reduces friction between the pad and the disc or drum.

Fading Due to Overheating
Brake pads are made of a complex mix of materials. One is a resin. Sustained heavy braking can cause the brakes to heat up so much that they melt the resin and the melted resin acts as a lubricant between the pad and the disc or drum which causes the brakes to slip.

Fluid Fade
Brake fluid is capable of absorbing water from the air. When water is absorbed, the boiling point of the fluid is lowered. If the boiling point of the fluid becomes too low, then heat from braking can cause it to boil. When the fluid boils a gas is released which remains in the tubes. When the brakes are pressed, instead of compressing the fluid, the gases are compressed and less power is applied to the brakes



Read more: Main Cause of Brake Fade | eHow.com https://www.ehow.com/facts_7337140_main-cause-brake-fade.html#ixzz1hIr7li9E
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[Daytona Paul]

I was running a machine control day earlier this year and we were doing emergency braking exercises from approx 100mph.

One of the guys had done a few runs when he came towards me again and started braking, as he passed me, still doing around 50mph, I noticed that the front brake lever was back to the bar

He continued past me, off the end of the runway and onto the grass some 20m or so.

The front discs were so hot the brake fluid had boiled. The fluid, along with his underpants, needed changing. Apparently all was ok the next day
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Fade is normally from heat, with fluid boiling or the pads overheating.

If you have changed the pads and replaced the fluid then they should be OK. But cheap pads might well not work that well, and low spec fluid might not work well either (and if you used DOT 5 fluid it won't absorb water to flush it out).

However dragging brakes (from sticking calipers) will likely heat the brakes up without using the brakes, and also keep them warm after braking hard.

All the best

Keith
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[WannaBeDude]

Can anyone tell me the history of brake pads, like when we used our trainers on bmx tyres.

In less than 5000 words ??


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[The Shaggy D.A.]

I hate break fade. You just know that you're going to have to do some work again soon.
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[matlow]

I always thought brake fade was to do with fluid heat causing the rubber brake lines to become more maleable therefore you had to squeeze through that movement. hence braided lines stopping the cable expanding and increasing braking pressure, although losing feel.

Always sounded feasible
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Don't think so. The rubber isn't the bit that provides the strength anyway (there is some internal braiding, probably cotton).

All the best

Keith
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[pits]

[.....]

I hope Bendy doesn't see this.

She still hasn't got over her "TV's" at PC World yet.

[bunglebubs]

Why oh why can't people spell BRAKE properly? Even in this thread the OP spells it wrongly break as in a coffee or tea break but spells braking properly in his first sentence!!

Ok got it off my chest now and breathe, phew
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[parkmoy]

[parkmoy]

double post

[BigGeeking]

There you are happy now
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[Walloper]

Brake/Break/Braik fade/faid is caused by excessive use of the breaks/brakes/braiks.
During normal use there/their/they're will be no incidence of fade/faid.

Learn to look ahead and time/Thyme your gearchanges/geerchainges.


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