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PostPosted: 20:38 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: R6; what to do? Reply with quote

As most know, I'm looking [soon] to sell my R6. Unfortunately though I dropped it on a roundabout at slow speed and put a few scratches on the fairing panels, nothing deep or serious but obviously it's not mint any more Crying or Very sad

I still want to sell it, I want something much cheaper and more suitable for what I use the bike for, which now, is only commuting and long distance - and the odd "fun" rideout of course Wink

The R6 is not really suited to that and will just deprecieate in value if ridden purely for commuting etc. It's just not worth the ££ when that ££ can be spent on a nice shiney KTM 520 supermoto Very Happy

Anyway, I'm not sure what to do now, it's almost winter possibly the worst time to sell a bike Rolling Eyes

Should I sort out the fairings so the bike is mint again and sell it for the £4250 I wanted, or should I fix a couple of things then sell it for what I can get (£3800 ?)

I'm seeing earlier R6's up for sale at the minute for £3500 and mine is mint apart from a few scratches so no way I'm losing too much money on it, I'll leave it till next summer if I really have to Confused

So, hint tips and ideas people?

Anyone got some excellent condition cheap R6 fairings for RHS?

Not sure what to do yet but I want to get it sold, new bike bought and new supermoto sorted Very Happy

To get it mint again I would need to replace the right side mirror, indicator, bar ends, lower fairing, mid fairing and there's a small bit of scuffs to the top fairing too. Would it be worthwhile spending out to get it fixed or just accept some loss on the bike instead
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get rid of it.

Why do you want two supermotos?
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
Get rid of it.

Why do you want two supermotos?


Good question, if your getting a KTM 525, ditch the wr400 and buy a hack for commuting and that.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am selling the WR400 too...
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give it to me, Laughing Then i can follow in the footsteps of the almighty yams. Razz ZXR400 then R6, thats my plan Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much is the WR going for?!
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

So your sole transport would be a KTM supermoto?

Do all the other tools in the box mock you for your bluntness?
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
So your sole transport would be a KTM supermoto?

Do all the other tools in the box mock you for your bluntness?


Rolling Eyes

Let me explain.

I want to sell the R6 and get a cheaper bike, either a Thundercat or VTR Firestorm - I wanted the storm' but people take the piss out of the tank range, so I'm not sure yet.

With the left over money + some from selling the WR400 I will then buy a KTM.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zxr400er wrote:
Give it to me, Laughing Then i can follow in the footsteps of the almighty yams. Razz ZXR400 then R6, thats my plan Thumbs Up


That's good thinking, but you'll soon want to go back to the ZXR. Wink Just don't make the same mistake as me, don't spend so much money on something your too scared to scratch or get a speck of dust on Rolling Eyes takes the fun out of riding then when you realise how things could be different and better, you lose lots of ££££

To think, G and dusty etc were right all these years Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who'd of thought you'd reform from your tarty ways? Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it costs more than £100 i will protect it with my life, but hey thats what being a broke student is about eh ? Razz
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrchips wrote:
Who'd of thought you'd reform from your tarty ways? Shocked


Naaaaaaa not quite, wait till you see the KTM Wink
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much will the WR be?
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you *try* and sell it as-is, after all, you're not committed to letting it go for any less than you want to let it go for?

If it doesn't go, you can look at repairing it, or put it down to being the time of year and try again later.
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scooby wrote:
How much will the WR be?


Probably at least £3000, need to evaluate what it is worth compared to other bikes, I bought it at a good price, it was worth more than I paid and I've spent far far too much on it with various bits.

I'm not selling it because I don't like that particular bike or anything, but it's the wheels... proper supermoto wheels, brakes and tyres etc etc will cost about £800 so either spend that much on the WR or sell Wr and stick that extra £800 and get a faster KTM.

Bendy, I guess that is worth trying then as I never really thought of trying it that way. I think I'll try to fix a few things as cheapily as possible then stick it on ebay or something.

KTM similar to this: https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9926&item=2489727666&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Or a 520 EXC, more likely 520 as they are cheaper than 525 and 525 isn't that much different, just newer.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swapping the R6 for a Firestorm because it's cheaper? The Firestorms gonna drink petrol though, insurance isn't exactly gonna be cheap. A 2.5k Thundercat makes more sense, I wouldn't call a Firestorm an ideal commuting bike.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

See how much you can get for it as it is. If fixing up will cost less than the increase in it's value then fix it up (I very much doubt thig though) as it makes sense to do so financially.

You can you don't want to get a 'Storm because people take the piss out of the tank range, who cares if people take the piss, if it does the job you need and is the best bike you feel for what you need it for then go for it.

I would be reluctant to get a shiney KTM supermoto as you are already suffering the costs of getting a shiney bike and using it and it hitting the tarmac, unless you plan to not be ever stunting on it (which seems to be the main use for your WR so I expect it would be the same for your shiney new KTM) and it will just be used as a general purpose A to B bike I wouldn't think of buying a shiney bike as you will just suffer biug financially costs when it gets damaged through use.

The R6 does what you need it to, it does the same job as a Thunercat or 'Storm, but you've already got the R6 setup the way you want it, and the cost of it being dropped has already been paid and if you get another shiney bike you're leaving yourself open to pay it again.

Penny Coin Penny Coin
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sell the R6 and WR now, as they are. Then buy a cheap Bandit 6, your shiny KTM and a cheap CR500 and make it road legal. Then you can tart about on the KTM and fuck about on the CR. And pootle on the Bandito Smile
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it worth doing up the bike? Will you get the money back you spend on it, maybe some extra?

e.g. You could sell it for 3,800 now, but how much would it cost to make it mint, and how much will it be worth after it has been made mint? If you can fix it up and make some money (compared to what you would have spent), or break even on the process then do it that way. It will be easier to sell a mint bike, than a crash damaged one.

If not sell it as cosmetic damage, make an atractive price, and it will go.

Hope you understood Shifty

P.s. i recently did up a ped, and consequently will get much more for it. Sometimes a bit of effort can pay off.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but you'll soon want to go back to the ZXR.


If you like it so much i'll swap Razz
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pho/Ste; yes I agree with you both, the reason I looked to them was due to them being quite cheap but still nice bikes, you are both right though the fuel range is definetly stupid in considering what I want out of a bike now. I have been speaking to danny (thanks) and the Cat' seems to be the way forward, they are VERY cheap for what your getting from them. I will try and get a go on one some time and see what I think.

Ste, the KTM shineyness isn't quite as it seems, plastics for these bikes are unbelievably cheap, you can replace all the plastics (except tank) for new stuff for around £100 or so! My reasons for wanting the KTM are not for tart purposes, the supermoto doesn't do tarting, it's covered in mud most the time Mr. Green but my main reason is getting the KTM in PROPER supermoto trim with proper wheels, brakes and so on would actually work out cheaper than converting my WR. I didn't realise it would cost so much to convert my WR! And for that, a lesson learnt but I haven't lost anything so I'm not bothered, learnt lots and had fun too Wink Have to stop riding it to work as going to get arrested soon Laughing

Also, claud/ste I won't make money on this bike at all ever, not unless a dumb person comes along, I paid too much for the bike in the first place so won't make any thing on it. I was hoping to get £4250 for the bike in standard trim, I consider the money it's cost me over summer a good price for the fun I've had Thumbs Up but replacing the fairings/respray will cost a lot so not sure if I just stick it on ebay for £3800 and pray someone buys it? That would be the best way, £3800 is still expensive though for a bike with scratches but as I've said, I'm reluctant to let it go cheaper as it IS only a few scratches! I think for one thing, people will agree the bike is in good nick and well looked after!

zxr400er wrote:
If you like it so much i'll swap Razz


I'd be more than happy to swap mate!!

For your ZXR + £3250 Smile
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the point in getting a bike which every time something happens involving the ground will cost you ~£100? Yes it isn't as expensive as the R6 fairings but it still will make size-able dent in your wallet. I believe it is possible to get a KTM or other supermoto in proper supermoto trim without shiney expensive fairing bits to damage, or ones which have already been damaged as that will cost less and it means when you damage them it costs you bugger all anyway.

I'd stick the R6 on eBay at £3800 and see what offers and interest you get, would expect any interest will be people wanting to come and see it and if they like it buy it then outside eBay.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Whats the point in getting a bike which every time something happens involving the ground will cost you ~£100? Yes it isn't as expensive as the R6 fairings but it still will make size-able dent in your wallet. I believe it is possible to get a KTM or other supermoto in proper supermoto trim without shiney expensive fairing bits to damage, or ones which have already been damaged as that will cost less and it means when you damage them it costs you bugger all anyway.


I don't understand you really mate. The KTM's plastics are no more expensive than my WR400's fairings and the bike will work out cheaper over-all than my WR400 + supermoto trim.

I don't replace supermoto plastics every time I drop it, have you seen the state of my current plastics?? Laughing Been dropped a few times in gravel Mr. Green oh and once up a very steep grassy hill... and almost a few times on tarmac Laughing

You can crash them repeatedly without needing to replace anything... Generally just replace once a year or so but keep the old ones as they are handy Wink

Also, I'm only spending about £3500/£3800 on the KTM, I should sell the WR for around £3300 so there's not much of a difference?

So I don't quite understand you really. It won't cost £100 every time I drop it?
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

As sorry, misunderstood you. I thought you were saying "yes it's shiney but it'll only be £100 if I damage the fairings" meaning it is still shiney like the R6 but cheaper. Didn't know about the WR fairings, and it working out cheaper than putting the WR into full supermoto spec then it would seem a good idea. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
As sorry, misunderstood you. I thought you were saying "yes it's shiney but it'll only be £100 if I damage the fairings" meaning it is still shiney like the R6 but cheaper. Didn't know about the WR fairings, and it working out cheaper than putting the WR into full supermoto spec then it would seem a good idea. Thumbs Up


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Plus it'll be easier for me to hurt myself on Mr. Green Laughing They are a fair bit faster Very Happy
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