Legality of riding bike like this

[wilz1234]

So, basically my cbr tail fairing on my zxr400 decided it wasn't happy with itself and ditched my tail lights and numberplate while riding.
This week i'm meant to be taking the bike to a dyno place to have the carbs set up.

Is it going to be a problem to ride with no tail fairing, rear indicators, and with the numberplate strung onto my backpack.

[truslack]

Yes. It's illegal. Fix it.
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[JoeDougieDoug...]

Doesn't a road-worthy bike have to have both sets of indicators fully functional? I suppose you could indicate with your arms... failing that, rebook your dyno test and get your bike fixed up again.
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[Teflon-Mike]

[wilz1234]

I was worried that would be the case

I could mount the numberplate without too much hassle I guess.

So you need tail lights if you have front lights? I know it may seem stupid, but could i not just remove the front lights as well and ride during daytime.

[Bezzer]

[Teflon-Mike]

You can get an MOT under exemptions for a machine 'adapted' for off-road use, provided it has a solo seat, no pillion accomodation (pegs, seat, grab-strap); no lights, front or back, but importantly no switches for them.

THAT is the MOT rules.

Road Traffic Act reverts to the C&U regulations; and what equipment is mandated for a production motorcycle.

THEN if you were to 'adapt' part way through an MOT period you would be in a grey area, as if it was tested with lights, then removing them, or having them non-functioning, would be a 'vehicle fault', as they WERE there when tested.

Bottom line is YOU know, and WE know you have a bike that is defective, and not in a road-worthy condition; any plod that stopped you would also know that, and you are merely looking for a loop-hole to get round riding an unroadworthy vehicle, on the road....

Loop-hole is there; BUT to be 'in the clear' to use it; you would have to do full 'off-road' converstion and probably re-MOT the bike to validate it..... OR fix it up to as MOT'd standard with lamps.

Anything in between, you are on shakey ground; and best; you dont get stopped, or get stopped & let off with a word; worst they sieze the vehicle as 'Dangerouse & Unroad worthy'... most likely a rectification notice; possibly a fine & points for non regulation number-plate (as they seem to like that one)

Back to you? Is it worth it, for the sake of a phone call to change the Dyno date?
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[wilz1234]

Cheers for the quick responses. I guess itll have to wait till summer

[bazza]

[truslack]

[Teflon-Mike]

[P.addy]

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[Teflon-Mike]

[Kickstart]

Hi

You do not need an off road exemption. That does allow some things (such as having lights but no indicators), but the MOT rules allow a bike to pass if it has no lights (including and especially no front or rear position light) irrespective of whether it is an off road bike or not, or the date it was first registered as do the C&U rules.

Whether there is another older regulation still on the books mandating lights is another question (ie, something to match up with the MOT comment on bikes from before 1931 not needing a headlight).

All the best

Keith
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[P.addy]

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[Tarmacsurfer]

Tef, I'm astounded. Those have to be your shortest posts ever
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[P.addy]

[Kickstart]

Hi

In which case he has given you a daytime MOT with the other lights being irrelevant as they are classed as being taped up. Take the tape off and without working indicators it should fail and is also not legal under C&U.

As to the GSXR, yes that is an offence by not complying with C&U. Which you could get round by taping up / removing all the other lights and not using it at night / when visibility is dodgy.

All the best

Keith
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[P.addy]

[wilz1234]

[G]

"Sorry officer, it just fell off, but I did my best with the numberplate."

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