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Suntan Sid
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Courier/Delivery Companies, Tell Me More. Reply with quote

Who can tell me how the big couriers, DHL, UPS, Fedex etc. operate.
If I order something from say the UK, the package, eventually arrives in Cyprus, however none of these companies will deliver to the door. The modus operandi here is, they ring you and tell you to come to the depot to collect your parcel.
It’s not as if I’m a huge distance away from the depot, 12 miles to be precise.
Is this normal procedure or is the whole of Cyprus being right royally ripped off?
A quick Google would suggest that the major couriers are franchised, which confirms my suspicion that local, lazy arsed, couriers are subcontracted to make deliveries but CBA and are making a small fortune by ringing around and getting people to collect their own packages.
Are these franchises breaking their terms and conditions by not delivering to the door?
More importantly, am I being ripped off?
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

All packages I've had here (England) get delivered to the door, though if we miss the delivery we might have to collect.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
All packages I've had here (England) get delivered to the door, though if we miss the delivery we might have to collect.


We don't get the option of missing the delivery, they just don't deliver!

What I want to know is, are they breaking their franchise terms and conditions by not doing deliveries?
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, their contract is with the sender, not you. They can happily ignore you, since you're not the one that they'd have to refund if they failed to complete the contract. Get the sender to chase them up.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Unfortunately, their contract is with the sender, not you. They can happily ignore you, since you're not the one that they'd have to refund if they failed to complete the contract. Get the sender to chase them up.


That's not really what I'm talking about.
In Limassol there are the usual courier company offices, DHL, Fedex, UPS etc.
As far as I can tell the only way of getting your package, is to visit the appropriate office, they simply do not put parcels into vans and go out delivering them.

Assuming that the DHL, Fedex, UPS offices are franchised, surely there are rules that the parent company insists on them following.
I would have thought that one off main duties of a courier was to actually deliver the item.

I find it difficult to believe that a global brand name allows their name to be used for such a shabby service.

What's the point of a courier that doesn't actually deliver anything?

Just wondered if anyone can shed some light on this.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're taking the piss. But all you can do is refuse to go pick up the parcel, and wait and see if they deliver it.

Do the big multi-nationals have depots in Cyprus? I've worked with UPS and DHL so have a fair idea of how things should work here, but in your situation, much will depend on whether or not the final leg of the journey is sub-contracted to a local courier.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some experience with this, essentially the fulfilment can be handled by a different entity once it crosses international borders. All is specified in the T&Cs so if that's the standard for Cyprus then that's what you get...

Why do I know this? I am part of a start-up delivery company www.bypost.com that brokers parcel companies to collect from your door and deliver wherever you want. So, if you ever need anything delivered then go there Wink It's cheaper than the prices you can get as an individual and you still get a big name courier doing the delivery.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
I have some experience with this, essentially the fulfilment can be handled by a different entity once it crosses international borders. All is specified in the T&Cs so if that's the standard for Cyprus then that's what you get...

Why do I know this? I am part of a start-up delivery company www.bypost.com that brokers parcel companies to collect from your door and deliver wherever you want. So, if you ever need anything delivered then go there Wink It's cheaper than the prices you can get as an individual and you still get a big name courier doing the delivery.


Thanks for that I'm going to need a courier for some bike bits in the near future. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conon wrote:
They're taking the piss.


Seems to be the norm for businesses here! Laughing

Conon wrote:
Do the big multi-nationals have depots in Cyprus?


Yes!
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like the DHL depot in Cyprus isn't a DHL depot at all, despite being decked out in DHL colours and logos. Its actually operated by a " service partner". Operates along much the same lines as any franchise operation would, ie under licence from DHL.
You would have to know what the terms of their licence agreement were, but I'd be surprised if DHL encourages them to have the customer come to the depot.
If the same scenario were to operate in this country, (which it does) DHL would be paying the service partner somewhere in the region of £2.50 for delivering a parcel. If the customer comes to the depot to collect, costs are significantly lower than they would be otherwise.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DHL

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Address:
Charles-de-Gaulle-Straße 20
53113 Bonn
Tel. +49 (0) 228-18 20
e-mail: [email protected]


Email the top of the chain.

Simple to find the same for the rest...
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand exactly what you're saying, but their contract to deliver to your door isn't with you, so you'll have to get the sender to ask why they're welching.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I understand exactly what you're saying, but their contract to deliver to your door isn't with you, so you'll have to get the sender to ask why they're welching.


Not quite correct. The contract is deemed to be between the sender, the recipient and the courier company. If the recipient has the tracking number of the parcel, the courier will give him all the info he could possibly want.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conon wrote:
Not quite correct. The contract is deemed to be between the sender, the recipient and the courier company. If the recipient has the tracking number of the parcel, the courier will give him all the info he could possibly want.


Incorrect unfortunately.

The recipient unless they are an account holder is not a party to the contract of delivery. The contract of delivery is between the bill payer and the delivery company. There is a seperate contract between the buyer and the seller if this is appropriate to the delivery.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conon wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
I understand exactly what you're saying, but their contract to deliver to your door isn't with you, so you'll have to get the sender to ask why they're welching.


Not quite correct. The contract is deemed to be between the sender, the recipient and the courier company.


How can the recipient be a party to a contract of which they may have no knowledge, let alone an opportunity to agree to? Engage brain, then fingers.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Not quite correct. The contract is deemed to be between the sender, the recipient and the courier company.


How can the recipient be a party to a contract of which they may have no knowledge, let alone an opportunity to agree to? Engage brain, then fingers.[/quote]

Engage brain, then read what I actually wrote. All of it!
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