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Mondeo Man
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 06 Jan 2012    Post subject: Should I rent ... from my mum? Reply with quote

Background: My mother and her other half will soon be selling their house, buying a flat, and disappearing to Europe. The flat will become a 'holiday home' in England and they will return every 3 months for an undefined period, to remain Brit citizens, etc.

An opportunity will exist for me to rent from them and for me to become a tenant. I should get 'mates rates' .

My position: at the moment, I am living with my father after a spell previous spell of living with mates, after uni, which led to spiralling debts etc., which I'm on top off ( I have 5 figure savings now)

But although I pay board atm, it's nearly half off what I would pay to rent from my mum/cover bills etc.

If I'm honest, I've got used to the easy ride of living with my father. Our paths hardly cross, due to contrasting work hours, and it does enable me to bank a lot of what I earn. So it's not really an imposition.

However, it does mean it's some times a pain meeting girls etc, as my father and I aren't "mates" - we're family in the strict sense of the word.

A part of thinks, stay put, and look toward banking more, with the goal in 4-5 years of taking on a mortgage. But, the other part thinks, you know what, I need my own space. Even though we tend to stay out of each other's way, I feel like I'm in my father's shadow, that it's his house and not mine.

So it's a choice between something that is financially cushdy but a bit of a pyschogical pain (not having my own digs) and something that will double my outgoings - relating to shelter, etc - but give me my own space.

I will get much more bang for my buck renting from my mum than a private person. But I'm not sure if I should be looking in the private sector to avoid any potential problems further down the line....


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PostPosted: 18:37 - 06 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stay where you are. Or get a house mate to split the costs of your mums house
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 06 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Should I rent ... from my mum? Reply with quote

Mondeo Man wrote:
I need my own space.


So where will you go while your mum and her partner are back? Confused

A flat is likely to be a fairly small confined space and they will be visiting for an "unconfirmed period" at regular intervals? Far more invasive than your dad I woud have said.

Also, if they are stopping for weeks/months at a time will they be paying towards the bills, or giving you a discount on the rent while they are there?

Personally I'd be tempted to stay put. Your mum wants you as a house-sitter not a tenant - she should be paying you, or at least not charging you rent if you are going to pay the bills. No way if she rents to anyone else can she come back and stay whenever she fancies!
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 06 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Should I rent ... from my mum? Reply with quote

yambabe wrote:
Mondeo Man wrote:
I need my own space.


So where will you go while your mum and her partner are back? Confused

A flat is likely to be a fairly small confined space and they will be visiting for an "unconfirmed period" at regular intervals? Far more invasive than your dad I woud have said.

Also, if they are stopping for weeks/months at a time will they be paying towards the bills, or giving you a discount on the rent while they are there?

Personally I'd be tempted to stay put. Your mum wants you as a house-sitter not a tenant - she should be paying you, or at least not charging you rent if you are going to pay the bills. No way if she rents to anyone else can she come back and stay whenever she fancies!


Thanks.

They would be coming back for literally days (maybe a week or so) every three months (to remain British citizens). They have property in Europe where they will be living.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 06 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay put and let the girls/women take you back to their place. Sorted. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 06 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for renting your mothers.

Might even go as far as to say if you would like to buy it that they consider your rent as payment towards the purchase price.

Bonus to them is they have someone renting who has a vested interest in the house and will ensure that it stays safe and well maintained.
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Should I rent ... from my mum? Reply with quote

Mondeo Man wrote:
They would be coming back for literally days (maybe a week or so) every three months (to remain British citizens). They have property in Europe where they will be living.

Confused

They're not going to lose their citizenship by living abroad, no matter for how long.
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PostPosted: 02:10 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As per iooi, ask them to sell you the house.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Should I rent ... from my mum? Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Mondeo Man wrote:
They would be coming back for literally days (maybe a week or so) every three months (to remain British citizens). They have property in Europe where they will be living.

Confused

They're not going to lose their citizenship by living abroad, no matter for how long.


He probably means 'Non resident' status, which can open up a huge can of worms if you have pensions, savings etc. in UK
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Should I rent ... from my mum? Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
He probably means 'Non resident' status, which can open up a huge can of worms if you have pensions, savings etc. in UK
There's no legal requirement to come back every three months, either way.

If you go abroad permanently, you will be treated as remaining resident and ordinarily resident if your visits to the UK average 91 days or more a year, over a four-year period.

So, OP would have to share the flat with his Mum and her partner for three months each year.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is she going to rent the flat to anybody else if you decline the offer?

You are doing HER a favour by house sitting, considering it wouldn't be yours for a quarter of the year. Good opportunity to get even lower rent plus more independace I say! Plus you could always go back to your dads for those three months...
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems I have now been offered to rent the house (at flat prices), plus she'll pay the bulk of the council tax.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW....

My old dear spends most of her time in france, living in the house she owns.
She also has a flat here in Liverpool city centre.

She has offered it to me and mine at a reduced rate.

I passed on it. Dont wanna get into the "my flat, my rules" bullshit that will inevitably happen. The fact that im 32 doesnt seem to register in my my old dears noggin.

In short. Bad idea. Dont do it. Get a gaff of ur own and/or share with a mate cos mums are fukin mental!
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