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 Posted: 17:23 - 06 Jan 2012  Post subject: MOT changes 2012 |
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Haven't seen this posted yet, but come across it on AA site and here:
https://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready/ - although it appears to be published in relation to cars, surely bike's would be affected where relevent?.
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On 1 January 2012, new rules were added to the current MOT by the Department for Transport (DfT) to comply with European testing procedures.
It's a pretty substantial list, but there's one which could mean big bills for thousands of drivers. If your car has any illuminated warning lamps, whether it is the airbag, seatbelt, ESP, SRS, ABS or others, it will soon fail the MOT.
It's not all bad news. If your car's MOT runs out before the 31 March 2012 and you have a warning light that needs addressing, the testers will treat it as an 'advisory', i.e. advice on what needs to be done for the next MOT.
However, if your MOT is due after 1 April 2012, you better get your skates on and get the warning light (or other faults in the list below) fixed, otherwise you'll receive the dreaded red fail sheet.
The AA has kindly published a summary of the new rules. If you think your car needs attention on any of the points below but still has a long MOT left, we recommend getting it seen to sooner rather than later.
The main changes from 2012:
Electronic parking brake
Electronic parking brake controls are now included and must be present and not inappropriately repaired or modified - repair obviously likely to adversely affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle or modification that has seriously weakened the component.
(The 'inappropriately repaired or modified' check is to be applied to a wide range of systems and components throughout the vehicle.)
The car will fail if an Electronic Parking Brake warning lamp is illuminated to indicate a malfunction.
Electronic Stability Control
Checks of anti-lock brakes will be extended to include Electronic Stability Control if fitted. The tester will check for the presence and correct operation of the ESC malfunction warning light together with looking for obviously missing, excessively damaged or inappropriately repaired or modified components and electrical wiring, as well as an ESC switch missing, insecure or faulty.
Warning lights
As well as electronic parking brake and electronic stability control warning lights (where fitted) the MOT test will also include checks for the correct function of the following, where fitted;
Headlight main beam warning light
Electronic power steering warning light
Brake fluid level warning light
Tyre pressure monitoring system warning light
Airbag warning light
Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light
Steering & suspension
The new test includes a check on the presence and correct function of the steering lock where fitted as standard.
Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter the joint.
Power steering fluid level must be above the minimum level indicated on the reservoir.
Lighting
Products on the lens or light source that obviously reduce the light's intensity or change its colour will become a reason for failure – applies to front/rear position lamps, registration plate lamps, stop lamps, rear fog and direction indicators,
Headlight requirements are updated to take account of the particular characteristics of High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps.
HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high so car manufacturers must fit headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. A car will fail if a mandatory headlamp cleaning or levelling system is missing, doesn't work or is obviously defective.
Vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID systems must also be fitted with properly working washer and levelling systems.
If a headlamp bulb is not seated correctly the resulting beam pattern will be indistinct and this will result in a test fail.
Electrical wiring and battery
An insecure battery will be a reason for failure as will a battery that is leaking electrolyte.
Visible wiring that is insecure, inadequately supported or likely to cause a short will also result in a failure as will wires bared by damaged insulation.
Trailer/caravan electrical socket
There will be a basic security/damage check of 7-pin sockets,
13-pin sockets will be subject to a full electrical connectivity check and incorrectly connected or inoperative circuits will result in failure.
Tyres
Tyre pressure monitoring systems fitted to vehicles first registered after 1 January 2012 must be working correctly and not indicating a malfunction.
Supplementary restraints
The vehicle will fail the test if any airbag fitted as original equipment is obviously missing or defective.
A seatbelt pre-tensioner fitted as original equipment but missing or that has obviously deployed will be a reason for failure.
Seatbelt load limiters that are missing where fitted as standard or folding webbing type limiters that have obviously deployed are also reasons for failure.
The vehicle will also fail if an SRS malfunction light is missing, not working or indicating a fault.
Speedometer
The car will fail if a speedometer is not fitted, is incomplete, inoperative, has a dial glass broken/missing or cannot be illuminated.
Seats
It must be possible to secure the driver's seat fore and aft adjustment mechanism in two or three different positions. On electric seats the motors must move the seat fore and aft.
Doors
A rear door that cannot be opened from the outside using the relevant control is a new reason for failure.
Doors must be easy to open and close – hinges, catches and pillars will be inspected.
Towbars
Inappropriate repair or modification to the towbar assembly will be a reason for failure if judged likely to affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle/trailer.
Exhaust
A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure.
Fuel system
Damaged or chafed fuel pipes will result in failure. |
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Hi
The article isn't that accurate.
The changes for HID lights are a lot less strict than that.
Manual is here:-
https://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4_int.zip
Main section covering the HID lights says:-
Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge 3. (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system.
Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.
Headlamp washers may work in conjunction with the windscreen washers (when the dipped beam headlamps are switched on) or by a separate switch.
All the best
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half of that stuff is current MOT legislation. 
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| Posted: 21:31 - 06 Jan 2012 Post subject: |
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And so another tranche of older vehicles will be forced off the road because it's not financially viable to pay the labour charges on replacing a £5 component. Ask me about the fruitless hours I've spent searching for the child lock relay on my C3. 
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| Posted: 22:46 - 06 Jan 2012 Post subject: |
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| Blackwolf wrote: | | Rogerborg wrote: | . Ask me about the fruitless hours I've spent searching for the child lock relay on my C3. |
So, how long you spent looking for your child lock relay then Rogerborg? |
Hours. Fruitlessly. 
I'm not joking, I can't find the thrice damned thing. I've disassembled half the dash; it's not in or near the main BSI box there, it's not in the secondary relay/fusebox next to the battery, and the Haynes Book of Lies doesn't give any clue. I can find a wire that leads to it, but it just vanishes into the loom and I can't find the other end. An electrical specialist had it in for 3 days then admitted defeat.
It's not cost effective to pay a Citroen dealer to find it, not that they're likely to know either, so the car is now essentially junk for the sake of a single relay, and sooner or later I'll have to chop it in for a newer vehicle even though mechanically it's as fine as a Citroen gets. Happy now, ecomentals?
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If I can find out where it is for you, do I win a prize?
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So what you are saying is that my wife's car is now a scrapper despite being only 3years old! She was rear ended at a junction (by another driver...not me) and the car has been repaired and returned but still shows an airbag warning light...as it started doing after the the crash (it is an 08 plate Suzuki) the insurance company said that the airbag warning light was not due to the crash...even although it didn't show up until after the crash! 
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So what you are saying is that my wife's car is now a scrapper despite being only 3years old! She was rear ended at a junction (by another driver...not me) and the car has been repaired and returned but still shows an airbag warning light...as it started doing after the the crash (it is an 08 plate Suzuki) the insurance company said that the airbag warning light was not due to the crash...even although it didn't show up until after the crash!
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| Hockeystorm65 wrote: | So what you are saying is that my wife's car is now a scrapper despite being only 3years old! She was rear ended at a junction (by another driver...not me) and the car has been repaired and returned but still shows an airbag warning light...as it started doing after the the crash (it is an 08 plate Suzuki) the insurance company said that the airbag warning light was not due to the crash...even although it didn't show up until after the crash! |
Wire the airbag warning light up to the oil pressure warning light, and hey presto, your airbag light functions correctly. 
I work in an MOT testing station, and yup, the new rules are indeed a lot more in depth than the original rules.
Some more daft than others.
And STILL, after an update of MOT ruling and checks, it doesnt state that prop shaft support bearings on a rear wheel drive motor need to be fully functional.
A few things have changed for the better though.
An example of one, is the rear load sensing valve for the brake compensator. Mainly applys to Vauxhall Astras and Vectras with the sensing valve on the rear beam.
The orignal note stated that the valve must not be seized. Even though, the valve never seizes, and the linkage is the point of common failure.
The new ruling states that the linkage must not be seized. Which works better.
And to be fair, it's a pretty important part on those cars. Get that valve seized the wrong way, and you'll not have any control whel braking. The foot brake will literally be a hand brake.
If anybody has any questions around some of the points, feel free to gimme a shout and I'll find out the best / cheapest way around it.
I do agree, it's a way to remove all the sh*t cars from the road.
In regards to the CAT converter question.
Yes, it does need one, regardless of how it goes through the emissions.
If they have them as a factory fitment, then they need to be there.
Out of interest, why are you going to fit one, then remove it again?
Why not just fit one, and leave it on?
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| Shaft wrote: | If I can find out where it is for you, do I win a prize? |
If you can find out where it is, you should take an oath to use your X-Ray vision only for good.
To be fair, the wife's Xsara Picasso has been excellent, even with the abuse she gives it. But the more cut price electronics that get crammed into (any) car, the bigger the risk of the magic smoke escaping and turning it into scrap. I'd have thought that the ecomentals would be all over this, since it's far better for the dolphins and such to keep existing cars in service than to build new ones.
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