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PostPosted: 17:50 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Anticipated time too hoon - warm tyres Reply with quote

Bike naked mito 125 25 bhp with 17 stone on her back.

Tyres 160/60 and 120/70 z mich 2ct pures.

The tyres have now done their 100 miles run in period, how long after setting out can hoon considering the above.

I know in the summer it would be 2 mins down the road, but with temp around freezing ,, ??

Also, is it drop or higher psi in winter months ?

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PostPosted: 18:05 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest that "hoon" + "temp around freezing" = MAJOR problems

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PostPosted: 18:08 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No-one can really tell you, its up to you to feel how the bike responds to certain actions and go from there. Obviously, if you feel it wrong..... Exclamation
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spill counter was days ago Smile

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PostPosted: 18:36 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

with 17st on the back i cant see the mito being able to heat the tyres up to optimum temperature EVER . let alone with any one lighter on ....
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welshd1k wrote:
with 17st on the back i cant see the mito being able to heat the tyres up to optimum temperature EVER . let alone with any one lighter on ....


Please don't reply to my threads. ta Idea
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Anticipated time too hoon - warm tyres Reply with quote

That's an odd choice of tyre for a small bike in winter. A more durable and harder compound tyre designed to get up to temperature with less abuse would perform better on a low power light bike than a sticky sports tyre that can't get into it's optimum operating range.


Soft sports tyres on a dinky 125 road bike will not warm up well.

Soft sports tyres on a dinky 125 road bike in winter will not warm up at all.


Also, the 100 miles break in means nothing, it is all about progressively adding lean until the whole tyre is scrubbed in. Doing 100 miles bolt upright then trying to knee down on the several inches of non scrubbed in tyre edge will end in disaster.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why have you put an oversized tyre on it? standard is 110 and 150.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their ZR rating ?? Confused

Have run them in gradual lean build up ...

These tyres hard to if attal available in 150 - 110

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PostPosted: 19:40 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, darwin awards. Yeah we have a new candidate waiting for you.

I find it difficult getting the tyres on my TL to a decent temperature in this weather let alone on a 124 with 110bhp less!!
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should have bought bridgestone BT090. Probably much better than what you've got in all aspects, as well as not being THE WRONG FUCKING SIZE.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yadda Yadda yadda ...

I want info on working with these tyres, not what i should of got blah blah blah ... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

covdude wrote:
Their ZR rating ?? Confused

Have run them in gradual lean build up ...

These tyres hard to if attal available in 150 - 110

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Speed rating isn't really an issue on wee bikes, you aren't going to break 100mph and pretty much all motorcycle tyres outside of mopeds and CG125s are rated higher than that.

What we mean is, soft sporty rubber is meant for hard ridden sporty bikes, they generate a lot of heat which would make less sporty tires tear up and bloom. On the downside, if they are ridden gently (i.e. slow, or used on a light/lower powered bike) they don't get used hard enough to warm up and so stay stone cold the whole time, a less sporty tyre would be up to temp whilst sports rubber is stone cold.

As for the wrong size, it means they will be curving on your rim in the wrong way which wont be good for the handling of the tyre and the extra height and width messes with the handling of your bike.

Whoever sold you those tyres is a complete turd but do yourself a favour and take it easy, build up everything gradually because it will be tricky to get them warm in this weather, probably impossible to get them hot.


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PostPosted: 19:52 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine. advice
Eat less
Normal pressures because for road riding, pressures mean next to nothing, especially on a 125.
Tyres wont warm up when it's very cold.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds cool to me, roll on the summer )

I'll go back to standard when i find some mito SP wheels, which are smaller, and therefore 150s will be fine.

These tyres have soft compound of 40% and are 0.9 kg lighter, so that 40% should help. Karma Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 20:36 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
Fine. advice
Eat less
Normal pressures because for road riding, pressures mean next to nothing, especially on a 125.
Tyres wont warm up when it's very cold.
I hate you.


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PostPosted: 21:28 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you've enjoyed the ignorance and bliss of prickdom, there's no going back, pic i posted shows they fit fine ...... Rolling Eyes Cool
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are NEVER going to heat up and that tyre is too big for the bike end of
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

covdude wrote:
Welshd1k wrote:
with 17st on the back i cant see the mito being able to heat the tyres up to optimum temperature EVER . let alone with any one lighter on ....


Please don't reply to my threads. ta Idea


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PostPosted: 21:51 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

please suck a wet one out of my arse....


you hate teh fact youve cocked up and blown 2x what you should have on tyres hat are gonna be uber shite ...
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't hate that easily, i asked you not to comment, caus i don't like you, not because your right or wrong.

Matts answer was on the money ... your just a prick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXnAE6azuwU
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

covdude wrote:
I don't hate that easily, i asked you not to comment, caus i don't like you, not because your right or wrong.

Matts answer was on the money ... your just a prick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXnAE6azuwU

he said fuck all other than tyre presure.

he basicaly said the same as me so yeah .... wind your neck in you tit .



and tha video is irrelivent to you as they aint gonna warm up . this time of year let alone in t the summer
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have no idea of the Mitos ' immense ' POWAHHH .. !!!

My piston was forged in mount doom, and the firing temperature of my platinum sparkplug is hotter than the center of a Macdonalds cherry pie.

My bike powahhh to weight ratio, can only be compared to a meandering ant stumbling upon a WET, not dry sugar lump.

When you consider these points, it's no surprise my scotoiler is pointed at the tyre, and is actually filled with liquid nitrogen, to put out them pesky flames on the toasted rear tyre.

It's why ZR Pures were a must, the 140 quid maxis sports i was going to get would of instantaneously combusted, should they of gone up against said pie, sparkplug and inferno.

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PostPosted: 22:21 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not a big fan of those power pures. Pilot power 2ct's would of been better and they heat up quicker.

Dont these come with qualifiers as standard?

Cant say ive ever had a problem with getting heat into pretty much any tyre on any bike in the dry. They all get hot. In the winter/freezing temps, non of them get upto a healthy temp.

Supercorsa's get more heat into them in the cold than any touring tyre....
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