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Cheerfulgrin
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: UPDATE mod 2 failed first attempt :( - PASSED 2nd Time!!! :D Reply with quote

just got in from my mod 2 this morning and I'm very sorry to say that i failed.

next one has already booked, Feb 24th 10.24.

bit gutted, but he said i didnt use my back brake enough, he only saw me once! (fair point really) and when on the dual carriageway he had to ask me to hang back a bit from a lorry Sad

i didnt think i was all that close really, but overtaking had crossed my mind and i guess i mustnt have dropped back again after deciding not to, damn it!!

so my hyo GT250R will have to sit outside again for the next 2 weeks while i wait for the next test date #slaps forehead with hand palm# in the mean time i will be counting the seconds on all my gaps to the car in front and making sure i brake with hand and foot!!

I passed both theory and mod1 2nd time round so this isnt such a surprise lol
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: mod 2 failed first attempt :( Reply with quote

Cheerfulgrin wrote:
bit gutted, but he said i didnt use my back brake enough

Reeeeally? Because after you pass it's unlikely you'll use it at all. Wink

Same as mod 1, just put your foot on the brake, it'll look the same without giving a risk of locking the rear.

Cheerfulgrin wrote:
he had to ask me to hang back a bit from a lorry Sad

Hmmm.

It all sounds pretty subjective. Did he give you a major, or was it a surfeit of minors? Sounds like a typical clipboard-fiddler anyway, don't take it to heart. https://www.donstalk.co.uk/messageboard/Smileys/dt_smileys/wanker.gif
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with Rogerborg. The guy sounds like a nobber. Chin up for next time, at least you will know what to expect Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 3 faults for the back brake, marked as serious and then a serious fault for the van.
other than that i had a minor for steering and another for turning right at a junction.


i dunno if he was a clipboard fiddler but he did follow me in a car which i thought was a cop out, but if i had passed i probably wouldnt have cared, i just wish the next test date was sooner! lol
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky, good luck next time Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that dude, you will nail it next time! I had my mod2 this morning and passed with 3 minors.... I think i was lucky because we were always in a 30 or 40mph zone so i had no dual carriageways to deal with, we started at 8:15 damn was it cold, plus i had to switch to a bandit as the key to the hornet snapped off in the fuel tank.
Where did you do your test dude? And about following close behind a vehicle, i would leave more than the 2second rule, i always distance myself as much as possible whilst maintaining a good speed so just remember to overtake next time.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheerfulgrin wrote:
I had 3 faults for the back brake, marked as serious [...] he did follow me in a car which i thought was a cop out

Absolutely. Probably not getting any from his disappointed bitter wife. Next time, filter and leave the cnut behind. Thumbs UpWinkThumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is it started that using the back brake is mandatory? I never used it at all on my test. Tester sounds like a tosspot to me.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear you didn't pass. It took me 3 to eventually pass. Don't see it as a problem that you have your bike waiting- more of a visual encouragement to concentrate on passing the next time.

(I had mine sat waiting for me for 8 weeks till I could actually ride it. Cleanest bike known to mankind by the time it got taken out!)

Chin up, take it all on board and I'm sure you'll pass in no time- well done for rebooking straight away!

Best of luck!

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PostPosted: 15:38 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep that chin up - you'll nail it next time tiger! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep at it. Thumbs Up




I've heard it mentioned that a rider may be technically ok but some examiners will find ways to fail them if they see a lack of... for want of a better word...confidence.

I can kinda understand that. A colleague failed his test and was told things like. You didn't do the checks when entering a different speed limit, and you didn't get up to speed on the dual carriageway. [old test] He'd done the u-turn, emergency stop ok. I suspect the examiner saw him wobbling abit combined with poor roadcraft and thought 'This bloke isn't quite safe enough to be on the roads today'.

Me, (and I'm blowing my own trumpet very gently) never had a lesson and on my test momentarily locked up the rear and indicated left when he said turn right..oh and the riding through the traffic lights as they were changing.
Passed no trouble. I'd been riding almost every day for years, and it showed on test day. I didn't get flustered.

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PostPosted: 17:04 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that you know what to expect, you will be in a better frame of mind next time Exclamation then you will kick ass Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. Examiner was in a car. And as someone said, they can fail you on 'lack of confidence'

Not using back brake enough? I wonder how he was able to see that to be honest.

Before the test, my examiner told me bluntly

'I want to struggle to keep up with you.'

This didn't mean break the speed limit, but I did accelerate swiftly, change lanes and make good time. Because I did that, I lost him for half of the test. Who knows, during those times maybe he didn't see me not use my back brake enough Wink

Leave your foot hovering over the brake pedal, he won't be able to tell the difference..
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Unlucky, good luck next time Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 21:14 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear this chap, best of luck for the next one.....Yo'll get it next time so don't dwell on this one. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky mate, i dont remember using my back break on my test, and it cant be easy to see when hes sat in a car.

Just try relax and enjoy your next test im sure you will fly it.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 08 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Cheerfulgrin wrote:
I had 3 faults for the back brake, marked as serious [...] he did follow me in a car which i thought was a cop out

Absolutely. Probably not getting any from his disappointed bitter wife. Next time, filter and leave the cnut behind. Thumbs UpWinkThumbs Up
Laughing A cnut is a useful thing, in the right hands, HaHa!!! seriously though, bad luck and GOOD LUCK next time Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 09 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyaon wrote:
Right. Examiner was in a car. And as someone said, they can fail you on 'lack of confidence'

Not using back brake enough? I wonder how he was able to see that to be honest.

Before the test, my examiner told me bluntly

'I want to struggle to keep up with you.'

This didn't mean break the speed limit, but I did accelerate swiftly, change lanes and make good time. Because I did that, I lost him for half of the test. Who knows, during those times maybe he didn't see me not use my back brake enough Wink

Leave your foot hovering over the brake pedal, he won't be able to tell the difference..

Exactly this.

On my Module 2, I spent 90% of the test over 5 cars in front of the examiner on his bike so in reality he couldn't see me for almost all of the test. This led to us being in 30mph zones for almost all the test apart from one dual carriageway stint where he remained around six cars behind me.

The key to an easy pass? Get so far ahead the examiner can't see you. Thumbs Up!

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PostPosted: 19:43 - 09 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he had a "fail quota" to meet? It sounds like a completely bullsh*t reason to fail you and I don't even believe he could really see if you were using the rear brake.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 09 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninja_butler wrote:
Maybe he had a "fail quota" to meet? It sounds like a completely bullsh*t reason to fail you and I don't even believe he could really see if you were using the rear brake.

The OP said he was driving too close to a lorry/van/whatever.

If he did this for long enough for the examiner to prompt him to stop tailgating the vehicle in front then he did it for too long.

Tailgating is incredibly dangerous and even more so on motorcycles and should be a fail on test if someone has to be prompted to NOT do it.

Gutted that you failed, but you'll pass next time now. Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 09 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:

The OP said he was driving too close to a lorry/van/whatever.

If he did this for long enough for the examiner to prompt him to stop tailgating the vehicle in front then he did it for too long.

Tailgating is incredibly dangerous and even more so on motorcycles and should be a fail on test if someone has to be prompted to NOT do it.

Gutted that you failed, but you'll pass next time now. Thumbs Up!


Have to agree, if you need prompting to drop back from a vehicle, then you're definitely too close and have been for too long.

As for the back brake stuff, that might be debatable, but sorry to say it sounds like you deserved to fail on this test due to the above.

Good luck for the next test though, just remember to ride safe, ride sensible and you should be fine Smile
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 09 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
##Paddy## wrote:
Unlucky, good luck next time Thumbs Up


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+2, good luck mate Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 09 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe, although could be wrong, that examiners if they see one error serious enough to fail, like to add a second serious as it takes the result beyond contention.

In any case keep at it, when you eventually pass it feels good enough to make up for all the failures Smile.
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: UPDATE mod 2 failed first attempt :( - PASSED 2nd Time!!! :D Reply with quote

did my mod 2 this morning and despite rain and wind I'm very happy to report that i passed! Very Happy

I had a wopping 7 minors this time but i couldnt care less to be honest. nothing major (obviously)!
i know i have a lot tolearn yet but i can start the learning process proper now!

i took the front L off my YBR125 as a symbolic gesture but this afternoon i have been riding the lovely roads of the isle of Anglesey on the Hyo gt250r i have been looking at longingly for the last 3 weeks lol Laughing

thanks for all the support and good advice i have had on here, shows you can pass without lessons, even if it is second time round on all tests! lol
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: UPDATE mod 2 failed first attempt :( - PASSED 2nd Time!! Reply with quote

Cheerfulgrin wrote:
did my mod 2 this morning and despite rain and wind I'm very happy to report that i passed! Very Happy

I had a wopping 7 minors this time but i couldnt care less to be honest. nothing major (obviously)!
i know i have a lot tolearn yet but i can start the learning process proper now!

i took the front L off my YBR125 as a symbolic gesture but this afternoon i have been riding the lovely roads of the isle of Anglesey on the Hyo gt250r i have been looking at longingly for the last 3 weeks lol Laughing

thanks for all the support and good advice i have had on here, shows you can pass without lessons, even if it is second time round on all tests! lol


Well done fella Thumbs Up
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