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So they will follow with a maximum 1100cc 900kg car limit for 17yo drivers then?
Total wankers.
The more that goes on in this country the more I want to move abroad.
I really need to get my act together before its too late to go ____________________ Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky |
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DIRECTIVE
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everywhere else = sensible rules ____________________ Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky |
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Very glad I did my test before this round of changes (or the last ones, for that matter). I feel really sorry for any younger bike enthusiats who'll have to go through all this crap. Particularly so for 16 year olds, who will potentially see some of their peers in the same school/college year have immediate access to bigger bikes, while they'll be stuck on 125s for two years.
It's a shame to see they haven't allowed you to take the second test at 19, without spending 2 whole years on a 125 (or at least, passing the 125 test at 17 and waiting for 2 years). This would have at least alleviated one of the worst aspects of this regime - the enforced 2-year stay on a 125 if you're under 24 and wishing to ride a bigger bike. All this just means that if you're likely to need to use a motorway with a degree of regularity in your first 2 years (and are not at least a mild form of masochist), you can pretty much forget about biking as a practical means of transport until you're 24. A lack of similar restrictions for new car drivers will bring this disadvantage into even sharper relief.
My own case demonstrates why people might be put off. I did my CBT at 19, and passed my test at 20 as I wanted to ride something a bit larger than my RXS100. Under the new scheme, I'd have had to pass the 125 test at 20, spent 2 more years on a bike I'd outgrown, and only at 22 been able to graduate to something bigger. In reality, there's a strong chance I wouldn't have bothered, and would've continued riding on 'L' plates, ironically not recieving the professional training I took before the test. This particular situation wouldn't arise, however, if you could take the 46.6bhp test at 19.
Personally, I see this as one more reason to hope the EU explodes in a shower of its own brown smelly stuff, as speedily as possible. ____________________ Chris
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| Marmalade wrote: | DIRECTIVE
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We're actually pretty lucky in having Mike 'the bike' Penning in the hot seat at the moment, I think it could have been worse. We're still keeping solo L riding, for example, and effectively allowing skipping the A1 test by giving access to A2 at 19. Completely buggers the point of the Directive, but hey ho, fight them on the beaches.
Anyway, the usual rants: the full implementation should (according to the Directive itself) have been published 13 months ago, the DfT shouldn't still be "looking into" a training upgrade route.
And I really hope they drop the "not exceeding 35kW" limit on A2 test bikes, that'll screw over training schools if they have to run fleets of both A2 and A bikes rather than just using A bikes for A2. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Following a study by the Institute of Advanced Motorists, there is a strong argument in favour of 11 year olds being taught driving skills -
see BBC News Clip but this only seems to be aimed at car drivers.
My two daughters (aged 12 and 14) have been on the Young Driver scheme for 18 months now, and are making excellent progress.
Does anyone think this could or should be extended to motorcycles? ____________________ Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 19 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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