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Kwakki Si
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: suzuki sv650 1999 model any good? Reply with quote

Yes she's an old girl by now but I've seen a good one in descent shape with 28000 on the clock... Im still trying to get my 1st bike and am wondering what these are like? Im guessing their a good 1st bike but are they fun to ride swell or should i just keep holding out for that bandit 650s which would mean saving a few more bob... PLEASE HELLLLLP!
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: suzuki sv650 1999 model any good? Reply with quote

Overall a boring bike with inadequate suspension and brakes that need a lot of maintenance.

However, I'd still take one over the small bandit.

Makes more sense as a 'first bike' than a 500 commuter to my mind.
The lacking suspension you probably won't find an issue; and can actually be sorted fairly cheaply.
A good chunk lighter than the bandit, too.

If you're not used to better bikes, you'll probably find it good fun.
In reality, I didn't find the suspension too lacking for the road. I do dislike the engine character a lot, but again, if you're not used to fast bikes, it'll probably seem amazing.


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PostPosted: 23:10 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I upgraded my suspension, forks, and got braided hoses as well as a few other tweaks...enjoyed my ride 2001 - 2010.

Sold for an absolute song...needed a fair bit of work doing to get her singing and dancing and back into decent spingley spangley shape though...

I don't think they are a bad ride if you don't intend on going so fast, but do intend spending a wee bit of money upgrading shoddy Suzuki finishes though. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

99 is now a 13 year old bike and it should be judged and treated as such. The finish isn't great but i have a 99 one parked outside that only really looks a few years old. Reliability they're not bad and parts are easy to come by. Speed and handling are more than sufficient for the average biker let alone a newbie.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SV would be better restricted for the low down grunt which you could still used as opposed to the high up power of the 4 which the restrictions will significantly reduce access to.
Also the SV will be more than substantial for you, like frost said. Mine has bog standard suspension and I've had experienced riders ride it and be very impressed with its handling, so it's not like its just me, I'm restricted and after a year and a half I'm only considering getting another bike because I have 2 of them.
Most of the people who gave me positive info on the SV were people who had come from high performance bikes or moved up to, but still enjoyed the SV, and complemented it enough to make me get it.
To a sports bike owner the SV will seem slow, but to you i'm sure it'll be easily enough to put a smile on your face.
Have a buy of bike magazine this month, they've got a test between all '99 spec SV, Bandit, Fazer6, and Hornet, very good test Smile, and it will give you some good info on all 4 bikes, which are ideal for your situation

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*edit* I think 'slow' is incorrect, 0-60 in <5 seconds isn't 'slow', it's just not as fast as some other bikes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, the SV doesn't have "low down grunt" - it's just that it doesn't make decent power at the other end!
Secondly, at 33hp, which bike will be making more power?
Then at 15hp, which bike will be making more power?
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It will be geared lower than sports bikes as stock - I'd always suggest re-gearing a 100hp+ bike if restricting it to 33hp.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
First off, the SV doesn't have "low down grunt" - it's just that it doesn't make decent power at the other end!
Secondly, at 33hp, which bike will be making more power?
Then at 15hp, which bike will be making more power?
Smile

It will be geared lower than sports bikes as stock - I'd always suggest re-gearing a 100hp+ bike if restricting it to 33hp.


agree.

It'll be a perfectly fine forst big bike, but as G say's, think about gearing changes to give it more poke
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats just an opinion though... the fact is the SV produces its (i'll use inverted comma's to reduce pedantic sh*t) 'power' low down and midrange, which on a restricted bike is much more useful than power at 18000000000 revs (more about 7-9k>) which on some restrictions the bike won't rev past, and if it does, will do f.a.
My restricted SV has beaten mates restricted bandits and a GSXR 750, too restricted, which I rode and was nothing short of gutless restricted. The SV will go as soon as you twist the throttle, restricted and derestricted, the other bikes need to rev up before they bullet off like a scoulded cat, and the restriction either prevents or significantly reduces said effect Mr. Green

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*edit yes the bandit would be a perfectly fine first big bike, but the SV will also be perfectly fine.. Job done Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm mixed reply on this one lol, remember its my 1st bike dudes so i just need something for a year or two and not worry if i drop it, and need to learn how to do oil change, clean chain etc just general maintenance on a bike.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note I'm still suggesting it's a decent enough bike for what you want and probably the one I'd choose - but that doesn't mean I like the bike myself (despite having recently got another track one).
It has it's purpose and it does it ok.

Anyway, for mrredhead:
I'm glad you used inverted commas, because that's certainly not "a fact" either Smile.
I've attached a power graph showing a 99 SV650 and a 99CBR600 superimposed.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/99sv650vs99cbr600.jpg

Would you say either look particularly different? The basic 'graph' is actually pretty similar - the 4 cylinder bike is around 1k rpm behind, but is probably geared a bit lower per rpm, so in the real world will offer similar go at a similar speed in first gear - but will of course make more and power when the speed gets up, while the SV will have to change up.

However, even that's not really the point.
At peak power, both restricted bikes will be making 33hp.
It's likely that they will both make 15hp a similar point below that.

Why does it matter that the 4 cylinder bike has to rev to 12k rpm to hit 95hp, when a restricted bike will only be making 33hp?

The difference, in my experience, comes down more to the gearing. The more powerful bikes tend to make their 33hp over a bit shorter range, but not enough to compensate for being geared a fair bit taller.
The SV handles it better because the gearing is already pretty short as it's a relatively slow bike.

Out of interest, what bikes have you ridden in both restricted and full power form, for the same model.


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PostPosted: 12:44 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved my 2002 SV...

Sure, the suspension is cheap and low tech, but the engine is willing and tough, the frame is very stiff and light. The bike is comfortable and practical, and fitted with decent suspension could be a real weapon.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had one as a first big bike after cbr400, loved it. if you haven't ridden something newer and more refined they're really good. you'll think it's got great suspension, race style positioning, endless power and superb brakes.
all of which is a bit of a lie but when you don't know any different it's great.
get one with a decent exhaust on it and that has been looked after.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
First off, the SV doesn't have "low down grunt" - it's just that it doesn't make decent power at the other end!
Secondly, at 33hp, which bike will be making more power?
Then at 15hp, which bike will be making more power?
Smile

It will be geared lower than sports bikes as stock - I'd always suggest re-gearing a 100hp+ bike if restricting it to 33hp.

Well a 33bhp SV650 will be making more power than a 33bhp inline fouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Wink Wink

Not a bad bike, seems to be a lot of hate for them they do exactly what they say on the tin, you wont break any speed records, but a decent all around bike
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an SV"s" and have to say i thought it was a great bike to learn on. i genuinely believe i learned more on the SV than i did on the ZZR6 i had before, despite the ZZR being a lot faster.

I changed the rear suspension to a Hagon Monoshock (cost about £250 i think) and had the front forks serviced and re oiled and it was fine... quick enough to have fun on, felt planted in the corners (had Qualifier RR's on) but when not in the mood to play the "Kamikaze Filtering Game" was great for plodding along and did verything it ever ad to do. I used it to commute for 18 months and couldn't think of a better bike to have done it on.

I've now got a GSXR and Tuono 1000R - The SV isn't as quick in comparison, but was light enough to throw about and have fun on, and as a first big bike you'll think it's amazing, i'm sure. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:23 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_B wrote:

Why the weeping? What exactly does it prove?

I've kept up with a Fireblade with slicks (then passed when he outbraked himself) in an open class race at Cadwell when I was on a 64hp SV650 with road legal tyres.
Doesn't mean the SV is an amazing bike. Doesn't mean I was an amazing rider. Just meant my skill level was a good chunk above the rider I was following. Was with another minitwin at a similar pace - felt a bit sorry for the fireblade rider who was obviously a bit stressed by having these two loud-wet-farts droning behind him around the corners and often passing coming out of the corners.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
two loud-wet-farts droning.


Clapping And G goes up one notch Laughing Best lol of the day Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_B wrote:

Really? All I see is a leisurely bimble along the road with some opening up on the straight, really looks like they're doing 60-70mph
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore the hate for the SV, its a VERY good bike for a newbie.

As a first big bike you will not notice the cheap suspension, or under spec'd brakes for a long time to come. You will learn an awful lot on an SV, and i guarantee you this, you will not think it is slow!

I couldnt possibly comment on restricted bikes as i did Direct Access, but as a "full" power bike, the SV certainly put a smile on my face everytime i rode it.

On an average rideout you wont be that far behind anyone of the same kind of skill level whatever mid bike they are on, except on the straights, which isnt where the fun is anyway! The SV is a great bike to throw around, and is very very forgiving should you get it wrong. Granted it is not as fast as a GSXR600 or R6, CBR etc, but you wont notice that until you get to the point where your actually using all of the bikes potential.

I have just got rid of mine last month and replaced it with a YZF600R thundercat. Yes the suspension is better, brakes are better, and its a damn sight quicker than the SV was, but was the SV any less fun? No!

Ignore the Super sports elitists, as a commuter/tourer with a sporty look, cheap insurance, cheap running costs and cheap maintenance and repair costs, the SV is hard to beat tbh.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean-J wrote:
Ignore the hate

For the OP; I suggest you ignore anyone that suggests you ignore other people's opinions Wink.

To some degree a new rider may, when presented with two bikes, notice the difference between a well suspended one and a less so much more.

I'd happily take an SV alongs roads at a similar pace to a 600rr. But I bet if we took it back to when I first riding bigger bikes, I'd be much faster on the rr.
That doesn't mean that having good suspension is a good thing - there's something to be said for starting off with a bike which ties it's self in knots a bit sooner.


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Ignore the Super sports elitists,

Which are who, exactly? Well, paddy, maybe. But his experience was formed from having one for a bit and comparing it to sports bikes, so doesn't seem too unreasonable a way to form an opinion.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

would they be able to keep up with a 600 bandit?
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

simonWannabeBiker wrote:
would they be able to keep up with a 600 bandit?


Restricted yes. Beat my mate the other day. Derestricted, wouldn't be far behind

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PostPosted: 17:34 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to own a 99 sv and I now own a 55 sv650
The only down side is they rust to nothing very quickly.
Let be honest its perfectly capable for the road. It can do 140mph, it can brake well if you fitted braided hoses. The only downside is the suspension is a little cheap but what do you expect for the price!? Its not bad, it is what it says on the tin.

Ive raced an sv650 last year and with sorted suspension its a lovely bike.

For the road they are blinding. Easily fast enough to get you into trouble.

Ignore everyone saying theyre slow and handle like shit. I have yet to think my sv is slow or bad round a corner and I could ride circles round most people on here, and im used to lovely smooth tracks with ohlins suspension.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben. wrote:
I used to own a 99 sv and I now own a 55 sv650
The only down side is they rust to nothing very quickly.
Let be honest its perfectly capable for the road. It can do 140mph, it can brake well if you fitted braided hoses. The only downside is the suspension is a little cheap but what do you expect for the price!? Its not bad, it is what it says on the tin.

Ive raced an sv650 last year and with sorted suspension its a lovely bike.

For the road they are blinding. Easily fast enough to get you into trouble.

Ignore everyone saying theyre slow and handle like shit. I have yet to think my sv is slow or bad round a corner and I could ride circles round most people on here, and im used to lovely smooth tracks with ohlins suspension.


Here here.
My budget suspension is perfect on mine, even gets compliments from experienced riders, but a SRAD600 front end isnt very expensive and nor is it a lot of work to fit, a simple bearing swap.

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