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PostPosted: 22:09 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: French shitbox? - yeah ta. Reply with quote

After the cool slating my 106 got when I posted about it ~2years ago (bought for just £126), I thought I'd introduce the newest of my growing collection:

306. 1996 1.9tD, for a further grilling. Laughing

I'm quite impressed with this to say it's bigger, cost less and is more 'road ready' than "pip" (yeah, an ex named it, ok?) was.
Thanks given to G for neutrility

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306, 1.9SDTD(sedan) in dark red, no tax or test but I had it towed back, and started it, no mechanical issues at all so it's booked for MOT on wednesday. Alloys were with it, as was a half tank of fuel and it cost £95.

Bad points:
No tax
No MOT
N/S rear light cluster cracked (new one ordered saturday off ebay)
Alloys apparently don't exist, no tool to take them off.
Immobiliser was jammed on, without a masterkey - this is pre-keypad model but after much research overnight sunday I discovered that there was a way to get rouund it without any hacking or mods to the main parts of the car/engine.

Good points:

It's a running car, for less than £100 and worth more in parts than I paid.
..oh, and insurance is only an extra £200 on TPFT given the engine/power increase with 0NCB Cool

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PostPosted: 22:16 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:14 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

it can only be a post key pad model, the keypad was on all the early 306's then dropped in favour of transponder keys.

solid engine get the boost and fueling turned up and they can be fun cars. you may aswell of drove it home though as towing it with no mot and tax is just as illegal unless you used an a frame as a minimum. mot will likely throw up at least one wishbone bush and droplinks, they are both pretty much yearly occurrences on all 306's but cheap enough to fix.

oh and don't even bother tying to do the timing belt on it, it's a shit job at best, very straight forward to do but absolutely sod all space to do it in and having seen you struggle with your 106 gearbox it wouldn't end well for you.

overall for change of £500 with mot and tax there will likely be another 5 years cheap motoring there, just keep an eye on fluid levels

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PostPosted: 23:15 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK cars these.

First thing you do is an oil and filter change, then the timing belt, only this time, get someone who knows what they're doing to work on it Wink
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like it's been in an accident.
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PostPosted: 01:55 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do most vehicles that cost 95 quid, if it passes it's MOT, who gives a fark Wink
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PostPosted: 02:28 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am i the only person who thinks it was sold without mot because it failed its mot as it needs some work doing ?
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PostPosted: 02:42 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
Am i the only person who thinks it was sold without mot because it failed its mot as it needs some work doing ?


No, but it depends on what needs doing.

The parts are relatively cheap and, if you know what you're doing (or, in the OP's case, know someone who does) then it's not a bad car to get back on the road.

They suffer from a few known faults, but the fixes are very well documented and pretty easy to sort; once done, you've got a decent performing, fun handling car, for next to fark all.
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PostPosted: 02:56 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea which fuel pump it has? With the right fuel pump it can run on cooking oil, if you can find big enough quantities at a cheap enough price.

Pretty solid cars though, and can't complain for the price you paid.
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PostPosted: 03:02 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomp1983 wrote:
it can only be a post key pad model, the keypad was on all the early 306's then dropped in favour of transponder keys.

solid engine get the boost and fueling turned up and they can be fun cars. you may aswell of drove it home though as towing it with no mot and tax is just as illegal unless you used an a frame as a minimum.
chris
Noted, I think you're right, there was only 1 'user' key so i'm getting another cut - reckon a master would have avoided all problems with immobilisation.

I won't be attempting any big jobs on this, I'd had the 106 a while and been through a lot with it, still not managed to call the scrappy to get it weighed in.. Crying or Very sad

It was towed on a bar, all proper like, didn't want my old man taking any risks.


Cheers, il update Wednesday when the tester gives a verdict. Thumbs Up

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Any idea which fuel pump it has? With the right fuel pump it can run on cooking oil, if you can find big enough quantities at a cheap enough price.

Pretty solid cars though, and can't complain for the price you paid.
I won't be running it on oil if it has a Bosch pump, tried messing with it from barrels before and it's time consuming, since it's more than a litre of diesel out of the shops for oil it's not worth the effort. Unlike some idiot in chat said, saince I can weigh it in for more than I paid I reckon it's a tidy little bargain as long as there's not real work to get it through an MOT - previous owner said he'd used it for a few month last year and got a new car (saxo) but I reckon the immobiliser issue forced the car change. Tax ran out in Jan iirc so it's been used recently.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

More importantly than *any* of this: it's one of the few saloon cars ever to be fitted with a rear wash-wipe. Wise choice, sir.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:37 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imo looks a nice car from the outside ... 100 quid ! Cool
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

towing with a bar is still illegal if the car has no tax, mot or insurance a bar is only legal for moving a broken down vehicle that is road legal if your missing any of the above 3 it has to have a minimum of 2 wheels off the floor. having said that i have bought and driven plenty of cars home that have lacked mot or tax, the insurance is a no go as the guaranteed 6 points you'll get if your caught just aren't worth it

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PostPosted: 18:04 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subframe doesn't look completely true.
Cam belt looks a little over tensioned.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frost wrote:
Subframe doesn't look completely true.
Cam belt looks a little over tensioned.


The forks are bent and the fairing is cracked.
There's also two extra wheels bodged onto it
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomp1983 wrote:
as the guaranteed 6 points you'll get if your caught just aren't worth it

chris
5, you mean. Wink

I did notice this morning the rear O/S light cluster frame was a little unflush (to the boot), so I dismantled the bumper to discover at some point some pillock's reversed it into a bollard or had a car-park type shunt.

I spent a few hours knocking most of the dent out but it's significantly creased the outer metalry and I didn't manage to get it back to standard, but it is more flush now.

I also note the brakes are a bit spongey, the reservoir's full though and no apparent leaks so I suspect there'll be a notice from that.
Then on full lock to the left I hear a slight clunking, either the CV is getting to replacement levels or as said, some bush is worn.

I figure tomorrow will give me an accurate 'fix list', I'm already being pushed at scrapping the 106 so I can't see why it's bad idea to let this be a bit of a money pit/investment. Who else would deny it a chance? ..silly idea imo.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick bump:

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There was 2 more; 1 wheel missing a nut and 1 wheel has tyre wrong way.

Parts are already ordered, less than £40 total, £40 for MOT.

The alloys have a locking nut which is an oddment and was missing at sale, so I ordered one for £2.50 today, comes tomorrow so by Sunday it will be ready for a retest and taxing.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know whats wrong with the brakes?
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatevers wrong with the rears shouldn't matter, new cylinders are about £10 a side and shoes £20 so just replace the lot in one go and be done with it not worth messing around at that price

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PostPosted: 17:00 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good result although I have no idea what a tie bar is and if its expensive.

The rest sounds pretty cheap.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
Sounds like a good result although I have no idea what a tie bar is and if its expensive.

The rest sounds pretty cheap.


tie bar = track rod end. if i can get them off the shelf for a 17 year old honda crx for £17 a pair, should be fairly cheap Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tie bar i would say is the drop link between the suspension strut and anti roll bar, there pretty shit as standard cost about £20 a pair and pretty much fail annually, removing them can be interesting and usually involves levering the ball joint off then using a grinder to cut the rest of it off. id be seriously worried if it was a track rod end that had fractured and he'd failed to notice

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PostPosted: 19:11 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tie bar does not normally mean track rod end, i think he has used the wrong description for an anti roll bar link arm. Not sure why when track rod end and anti roll bar link arm are both listed on the computer.
You will be able to see whats fractured anyway and im sure it will be the link arm as usual.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the black plastic arm that snapped, there's a ball-joint affair at the top of it and it split at the ball, to the point where you can wiggle it freely in your hand.

As noted, 90% of the parts are now en-route. Thumbs Up Smile
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