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PostPosted: 22:23 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: CRF450 or DRZ400??? Reply with quote

Ok so im selling my 125 and getting a DRZ400 or CRF450, i really miss my CRF and dont have the money to buy another one and pay for a new road bike so i was thinking killing 2 birds with 1 stone,

buying a already road legal CRF would be awesome as i can ride on road and also take it motocorss, (wont be riding bike to track)

but then again its not the most piratical bike to have on the road so the DRZ is my next option.

i wont really be commuting much on the bikes just mainly for joyrides out and such,

ive checked with my insurers and they didnt ask if the CRF was restricted so yeah result.

with the CRF i will be having both SM wheels and MX wheels just switching them over when i go track.

So im asking if this is a smart move If i went and got a CRF ? or more easier to get a DRZ ?
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend had a DRZ-E with SM wheels and loved it.He then bought a WR450F which he is having problems with too much power.

Another friend has/had a CRF250-X and was forever spending money getting it fixed.Things like suspension,wheels,engine.
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PostPosted: 06:14 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are two completely different entities. The CRF has decent power/weight but maintenance is damn regular.

DRZ is heavy and pretty gutless without a few MODs like jet kit, full system, 3x3 airbox mod, air filter, FCR carb (if you've got the money) but reliable as fuck. My SM was a tank, surviving a run with an Audi a4 at around 50mph
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you do more road than off road then the drz is a good bike good of fuel aswell its just a bit heavy 130-135 kg it will have less service intervals. they allmost hold 2lts of oil..

if you are not commuting much then the crf
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always wanted a sm but heard they aren't the most reliable. Do they require a lot of maintenance?

OP good luck in whatever bike you choose. Smile
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mysterious_rider wrote:
Always wanted a sm but heard they aren't the most reliable. Do they require a lot of maintenance?

OP good luck in whatever bike you choose. Smile


The CRF would require a lot more oil changes than the DRZ,

I still dont know what to go for as i want the power of the CRF but the ease of having the DRZ
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going from a CRF to a DRZ, it'll feel horrible, slow and heavy.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save up and get a 690 SMC, redline have one under 5k atm.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

drzsta wrote:
Save up and get a 690 SMC, redline have one under 5k atm.


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PostPosted: 17:52 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

drzsta wrote:
Save up and get a 690 SMC, redline have one under 5k atm.


dont have that kinda money atm plus insurance will kill me
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZ is good, just quite gutless when it's stock. Love mine but can't wait to upgrade to a 690SMC soon Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

HisInfernalDRZ wrote:
DRZ is good, just quite gutless when it's stock. Love mine but can't wait to upgrade to a 690SMC soon Twisted Evil


if i get a DRZ i will be re jetting it and stage 1 hot cams and maybe a 40cc bore with MRD exhaust maybe that will give it some more umph
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you fort about the CCM 644 Wink
My m8s one is a very nice ride offroad even being a Big lump Wink
Lovely Smooth power and when you want to give it abit it comes alive Wink
WP forks rear shock ect and they do SM R30 or Duel Sport both will run iver set of wheels Wink
Would love to try it on Super motos

No Joy on the CRF then Crying or Very sad
I have fitted a 2nd Lock to my shed after seeing your post about it
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:

Another friend has/had a CRF250-X and was forever spending money getting it fixed.Things like suspension,wheels,engine.


Old man had one for quite a while, used it loads and never had to do anything to it. Apart from oil change every 500 miles
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bull wrote:
Have you fort about the CCM 644 Wink
My m8s one is a very nice ride offroad even being a Big lump Wink
Lovely Smooth power and when you want to give it abit it comes alive Wink
WP forks rear shock ect and they do SM R30 or Duel Sport both will run iver set of wheels Wink
Would love to try it on Super motos

No Joy on the CRF then Crying or Very sad
I have fitted a 2nd Lock to my shed after seeing your post about it


Dont need anything to big as im on my 33bhp limit, (hate that so much) So looking around the 400-500 cc mark, even tho CRF are 52bhp but shhhhh insurance company didnt know Very Happy

So far no news what so ever, when the police came round they didnt even what a picture of the bike lazy motherfuckers.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRF-Rider wrote:
Bull wrote:
Have you fort about the CCM 644 Wink
My m8s one is a very nice ride offroad even being a Big lump Wink
Lovely Smooth power and when you want to give it abit it comes alive Wink
WP forks rear shock ect and they do SM R30 or Duel Sport both will run iver set of wheels Wink
Would love to try it on Super motos

No Joy on the CRF then Crying or Very sad
I have fitted a 2nd Lock to my shed after seeing your post about it


Dont need anything to big as im on my 33bhp limit, (hate that so much) So looking around the 400-500 cc mark, even tho CRF are 52bhp but shhhhh insurance company didnt know Very Happy

So far no news what so ever, when the police came round they didnt even what a picture of the bike lazy motherfuckers.


Arrr i see pain as the ccm is a lovely bike Wink there do a smaller 604 but cant tell you what its like as not riden one .

As for the police there a waste of time my m8s kxf450 and cr125 and husky 610 tc (all locked in a container) have never shown up Sad
I'll keep looking out for it on Sundays @ ashdown mx track you never know any thing that stands out Ie mark to the frame or any thing that you would not normaly expect to see ??
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As has been said, they are two completely different leagues.

When I was looking for a supermoto, I was considering a DRZ, or a YZF/WRF.

I ended up with a YZF450 supermoto.
After I sorted all the bits out on it, it turned out to be a cracking bike.
Covered plenty of miles on it, road and off road.

It only ever let me down once, and that's because the shitty ignition barrel corroded up.
I changed it for a jetski lanyard type ignition, and it was fine up until the day I sold it.


Due to my wheelie habbit, It ended up rounding the dogs off in 4th, but Pete the actual legend, stripped the engine, and re-cut 4th gear making it perfect again.


Just change the oil regular (I'm talking every 500 miles). And you'll be laughing.
Even cheap oil will do (I always ran Halfords own brand), as it's been changed so regular, it doesnt matter on the make too much.


Even retro-fitted some pillion pegs on it, and rode the 50 odd miles to Dover with rox in the summer.

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PostPosted: 20:17 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Bull well behind the front number plate bit there should he yellow tape warping up some wires when a head light was previously fitted


@binge the DRZ was more in favor but now its more looking like the CRF Wink you say ignition barrel ? how would i go about fitting a electric start to a kick start bike ?
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRF-Rider wrote:
how would i go about fitting a electric start to a kick start bike ?



Why would you want to?

If you want a leccy start bike, with a slooooow engine due to the heavy flywheel to run the charging system.
They buy the CRX, or the WRF, which are designed for the road from factory.

A CRF450, or a YZF450, has a light weight, single coil flywheel/stator setup.
Meaning the crank weight is very light.
Giving them that rapid climb on the RPM, and supermoto / mx feel.





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PostPosted: 23:08 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, whats up with yor leg?

I could kickstart my WR in a flip flop.
De-compression lever just to pop it past TDC, 1 good kick and off you go.

I wish my Ktm had a kick, something satisfying about booting bikes into life.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

654cc wrote:
Yeah, whats up with yor leg?

I could kickstart my WR in a flip flop.
De-compression lever just to pop it past TDC, 1 good kick and off you go.

I wish my Ktm had a kick, something satisfying about booting bikes into life.


nah i was just asking as if i was to take it some where anyone could just kick it over and drive away
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRF-Rider wrote:


nah i was just asking as if i was to take it some where anyone could just kick it over and drive away



What, and you think an electric start bike cant be bump started?


My YZF450 still had an ignition barrel. But I swapped it for a Lanyard setup.
You can fit them to leccy start bikes too.




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PostPosted: 06:38 - 08 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRF-Rider wrote:
654cc wrote:
Yeah, whats up with yor leg?

I could kickstart my WR in a flip flop.
De-compression lever just to pop it past TDC, 1 good kick and off you go.

I wish my Ktm had a kick, something satisfying about booting bikes into life.


nah i was just asking as if i was to take it some where anyone could just kick it over and drive away


will keep a eye open
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 08 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bull wrote:

Arrr i see pain as the ccm is a lovely bike Wink there do a smaller 604 but cant tell you what its like as not riden one .

The 604 may have a smaller-cc engine, but it's a rotax lump that should make a good chunk more power than the Suzuki-DR engine used in the 644.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 08 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

654cc wrote:
Yeah, whats up with yor leg?

I could kickstart my WR in a flip flop.
De-compression lever just to pop it past TDC, 1 good kick and off you go.

I wish my Ktm had a kick, something satisfying about booting bikes into life.


There is also something quite frustrating about trying to kickstart a stalled hot single four stroke when you are up to your knees in mud during an enduro.
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