vfr 400

[donniemateno]

im looking to get a big bike and found this

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/vfr400-nc30-89-model-bognor-regis-1000/94376276

its very tempting

[Mikey3]

a friend has just got one, he LOVES it.
Check out the ratings of them, they were 5 stars! not bad for an 80's bike... beats most of todays!
Be worth at least a view, but at a grand be wary. Depending on why its a grand - you don't really want to have to get your hands dirty on a v4 squeezed into the smallest possible area

Mike
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[P.]

Ridden one, loved it.

The Tyga exhaust...is loud It also burbles nicely.

Would I have one...yes, for a grand...no

[Joncrete Cungle]

A sorted vfr is a joy to ride, great handling and has character. That one could be a bargain or a money pit. Can you get someone who knows 400 V4's to have a look at it first?

[donniemateno]

a colleague of mine used to be a motorbike mechanic i can take him with me. but u guys think a grand is abit steep?

[shereen]

[truslack]

I rode one, it was tiny, I hated it! If you're above 6ft, you may find it a bit cramped.
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[donniemateno]

only 5'10. other bridge i have to cross is whether i can get insured.

[StevRS]

Ask a few very specific service questions if it's been self serviced. They can be tricky and many owners do it either wrong or not at all.

Cracking bike - better than most modern sports 600s and it will turn you into Rossi within 15 minutes. Plenty of aftermarket bits available too, including tasty stuff like USD forks etc.
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[Frost]

Owned one, it was cramp and the suspension was tired, parts were expensive second hand, £ per bhp ain't great and having to rev the balls off it to get anywhere at acceptable speed gets tiring on long journeys.
But it looks like an RC30, blagable on a restricted licence and insurable by a youngster, which was enough to convince me and countless others to get one

[shereen]

[Skinned]

Bought my 92 nc30 just before Xmas for 400 quid. Flew through the mot and I've been on it everyday since, cracking bike and very reliable. Just keep an eye on the reg/rectifier if your balls start getting unusually hot then its cooking your battery.

[donniemateno]

guys sold it already :'(

[Frost]

[shereen]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[Frost]

https://www.tyga-performance.com/400dyno/nc30stockvstygafullrace.gif

So as stock they pull alright, but if you try to tweek the top end you get a flat mid range and peaky engine. 40bhp only kicks in at 9000rpm, 6000rpm is only 20!

Sure they're the best 400's, but i don't think they live up the the hype. A lot of people buy them expecting 4/6 the performance of a 600 which they aint. I'm just trying to give the OP some encouragement not to get his heart set on the VFR as the ultimate 400 and 400's being fantastic bikes. An old SV650 or fazer or something can probably be had cheaper, newer and will give more performance. Fair enough if he only wants an NC30, but chances are he just wants the best bike that can be had for the money

[Shaun]

If you're contemplating a VFR400 take a look at the CBR400 as well.

It's wise to take someone who can check electrics with you to view both as they're both prone to faults which can sometimes be fixed easily and other times turn them into money pits.

I personally preferred the CBR400, on the VFR I fitted rearset risers and had issues at Cadwell with the pegs still touching down way too easily, rearsets fitted to the CBR400 gave me more ground clearance than I would ever need.

They're brilliant first big bikes though, very forgiving and more than enough power to have fun with, also a lot less intimidating moving up to a 400 so you'll learn a lot more about how to ride a bike instead of fearing the throttle for months.

[Welshd1k]

'the best 400'

thats laughable... the zxr400 trances them in every respect .....
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[Welshd1k]

and here is some proof :
32mm zxr h1 with a race can and bigger main jets :
https://i41.tinypic.com/2rzurlh.jpg
h1 again with a beet pipe and sp cams std 32mm carbs...
https://i44.tinypic.com/2ytzgok.jpg

dont see many vfr's or rvf's put out that bhp

i remember grey 400 forum meet on dyno a dude with the op dyno chart was puttign out more power on a ZX400 thats right not a zxr a zx than some of the racebikes there vfr's and rvf's


what more needs to be said?
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[Frost]

The first dyno print is actually very similar to the top VFR printout where it has been jetted for an exhaust. I always thought the difference was bigger than it appears to be. but that might just be from all the 65bhp zxr claims i've heard compared to the 56bhp VFR spec.
I think the ZXR isn't as good because a mate has had one for 5 years, 4.5 of those it's spent in bits with him fixing it. First the CCT, then the cam chain, then head gasket the list goes on. Plus i preffer the looks of the VFR especially the back wheel.
As said above the CBR 400 is a great bike too! The CB400 is nice too. Actually i think i've changed my mind, XR400 is the best

[Seb]

ZXR doesn't have the ground clearance woes of the little Honda V4s, but then it also doesn't have that magical noise

It's kind of a shame to see the posh 400s all gradually rotting away as most of them are stunning little bikes in their own right, proof that you don't need huge bhp and cc to have fun, something manufacturers would do well to remember with euro legislation looming ever closer.
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[Welshd1k]

[quote="Frost"]
I think the ZXR isn't as good because a mate has had one for 5 years, 4.5 of those it's spent in bits with him fixing it. First the CCT, then the cam chain, then head gasket the list goes on.[quote]

so because it was badly looked after bya previous owner....

LOL good basis to have a opinion on 4.5years for a CCT and headgasket? get real?

mine droped a valve because I IGNORED THE CAM CHAIN RATTLE. its all down to maintanance... and most 400's are owned by twats who dont lok after them just ride them

+ the zxr was sooo much more lively than mates vfr's and cbr400's
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Sold >,zxr400 h2 (33bhp kit) rd350 n1 rd350 lc2<

[Welshd1k]

[quote="Frost"]
I think the ZXR isn't as good because a mate has had one for 5 years, 4.5 of those it's spent in bits with him fixing it. First the CCT, then the cam chain, then head gasket the list goes on.[quote]

so because it was badly looked after bya previous owner....

LOL good basis to have a opinion on 4.5years for a CCT and headgasket? get real?

mine droped a valve because I IGNORED THE CAM CHAIN RATTLE. its all down to maintanance... and most 400's are owned by twats who dont lok after them just ride them

+ the zxr was sooo much more lively than mates vfr's and cbr400's
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Current >Cb600fx hornet, ns125rk90 21.7bhp@wheel<
Sold >,zxr400 h2 (33bhp kit) rd350 n1 rd350 lc2<

[Welshd1k]

also that tyga dyno is airbox + pipe + fully rejetted correct me if i am wrong ??

also
61 from a ZX400 not a zxr a ZX and both on same dyno same day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZNjaBORcoo&list=UUyxQH9-kfPUyp4h8_9fLlgQ&index=6&feature=plcp

hahaha

vs 57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQPG-dQTj1A&list=UUyxQH9-kfPUyp4h8_9fLlgQ&index=5&feature=plcp
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Current >Cb600fx hornet, ns125rk90 21.7bhp@wheel<
Sold >,zxr400 h2 (33bhp kit) rd350 n1 rd350 lc2<