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Bomberman
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: SMIDSYed :( Advice please Reply with quote

Shitty feeling going to work on your bike and walking home in full gear and no bike Crying or Very sad
Here for advice really.
On way to work as usual. Filtering along around 10mph past static cars (no junctions for couple of hundred metres) quite happily, life is good. Next thing black car that I'm a car length off pulls out, putting indicators on at the same time. She'd seen a parking space on the other side of the road. 'No, no, no' I say but that quickly turns to 'fucking bastard' as the bike goes down and I hit her right underside braking and trying desperately to get right to avoid.
Loads of people pop up out of nowhere! At least five non-involved people ask if I'm OK and a big lad turns up so I ask him to help me get the bike up, all very pleasing. Then the driver turns up, 'so sorry I just didn't see you'. I just stared at her and said 'you actually said it'. Anyway, she was hugely apologetic accepted complete fault. As I was wondering how long that would last, a nice lady ran over and said 'I saw everything, I'll be a witness' and gave me a piece of paper with name number and get this - she'd also written down the car details for me assuming I might be too shaken to get it myself! Thumbs Up Anyway, that's the story. I have bruising and pain (all on the limbs on the top side of the bike, go figure), but nothing serious I kept my head up.

TL,DR; I got spammed while filtering. Blame accepted by opponent and I got a friendly witness.

So the advice bit. My bike was a bit of a nail I got and insured for £500. Since then I've turned it into a decent runner. It's the GPZ in my sig. Yes that brand new exhaust has a nice scuff, cracked side fairing, cracked the water pump cover, indicators/mirror ragged, steering maligned the usual. But then a nasty squeal developed too Confused
So, if I go insurance they'll write it off. The nice lady would like to avoid insurance if possible, but I can't see her actually paying for the damage she did 'cos it'll be a lot.
Advice? What would you do? Write off buy back? I am having a quote written up but it won't get done til tomorrow - do I need to let my insurance know now? If I don't and I decide to go write off after she says she can't afford will that cause problems?

Thanks in advance for any help Smile Paint diagram and marks in road to follow in the crash thread, and I think tef might be proud of the length! Smile

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PostPosted: 11:12 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that, glad you are OK, and conga rats on getting full admission of fault and a witness too Smile
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hevra wrote:
Sorry to hear that, glad you are OK, and conga rats on getting full admission of fault and a witness too Smile

Thanks Thumbs Up Yeah, I was wondering how much her story might change and then the witness ran over Thumbs Up
Really annoying, I've put a lot of time (and some fair £) into sorting that bike out Crying or Very sad And of course, now I'm transportless Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she wants to avoid the insurance then I would go with that too. Look at what is broken, and be reasonable ebay parts and get pattern bits. and give her a quote for the damage with pictures of the broken bits and links to the parts etc. Also give the proper quote to show that you are trying to save her money. Thumbs Up

it will be much easier than going through the insurance and will no doubt save you money in the long term.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldn't risk it and be claiming for damages
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mossi123uk wrote:
i wouldn't risk it and be claiming for damages


Then they'll give him £500 and tell him to be on his way, and he'll have a non fault claim on his record, that is assuming that is it goes 100% his way which it may not, even so they can tie it up in bureaucracy for years so you will be left bike less and moneyless waiting for a measly £500.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give her the opportunity to settle privately.

She admitted fault and saved you a lot of hassle.

(of course shouldn't have happened regardless, but not the point)

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PostPosted: 11:26 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe settle it outside of insurance, get her to give you some money for repairs, don't tell insurance companies, noone gets higher premiums, she pays for her fuck-up and everyone goes home happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
If she wants to avoid the insurance then I would go with that too. Look at what is broken, and be reasonable ebay parts and get pattern bits. and give her a quote for the damage with pictures of the broken bits and links to the parts etc. Also give the proper quote to show that you are trying to save her money. Thumbs Up

it will be much easier than going through the insurance and will no doubt save you money in the long term.


Yes, do this, good karma for all concerned as long as it goes OK. At le3ast give her the option - it might be you on the other side in the future.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although most insurers (or ones I dealt with) tell me they need the police reference...Which I'm assuming you haven't reported it to them? If you have...usually they report to insurers?

Also if she does fob you off and you decide to go the insurance route...they'll ask why it took so long... Also, if there is anything you havent declared on your bike..remove it Laughing

I've got loads of non faults on my record, none of them touch my premium Thumbs Up But if shes a nice person whos willing to pay for your frame to be checked and straightened along with forks and checking every single part of the bike is straight... go with it.

You'll feel more painful later/tomorrow.

Bad luck mate...going back to bed now... feel well sick Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all Thumbs Up
Ich, I'm torn. Going outside insurance I guess would be the preferable route - the £500 from the insurance won't cover the damage or replace the bike.
Conversely the driver isn't going to pay for all the damage. The exhaust is scuffed (literally a months use). Fine it's only cosmetic but it was mint this morning. They cost £300+ on eBay and christ knows how long it'd take for one to come up. Same with the fairings, to get replacements in that colour (I'm not riding a mongrel bike 'cos a driver can't pay attention) could take forever and be costly.
But then, I'm not getting them either way am I? I'm just furious about the fact that either way, I'm losing out quite a bit - cash, time, injury, I've got to get the bus back to work Rolling Eyes just because she really, really wanted that parking space. Tempted to go insurance just to ensure it does cost her her NCB and increased premium...
Bollocks Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Although most insurers (or ones I dealt with) tell me they need the police reference...Which I'm assuming you haven't reported it to them? If you have...usually they report to insurers?

Also if she does fob you off and you decide to go the insurance route...they'll ask why it took so long...

This is my main worry, can anyone else advise on this? Are my insurers going to get odd if I don't tell them till tomorrow?
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bomberman wrote:
##Paddy## wrote:
Although most insurers (or ones I dealt with) tell me they need the police reference...Which I'm assuming you haven't reported it to them? If you have...usually they report to insurers?

Also if she does fob you off and you decide to go the insurance route...they'll ask why it took so long...

This is my main worry, can anyone else advise on this? Are my insurers going to get odd if I don't tell them till tomorrow?


You must report it to them, ring the claim line and say you had an accident but you think the lady wants to settle privately so will go down that route unless she starts fobbing you off.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:

You must report it to them, ring the claim line and say you had an accident but you think the lady wants to settle privately so will go down that route unless she starts fobbing you off.

Oh OK. Surely though, that'll go on my record and essentially do the same as me actually claiming?
But no I will, really don't want to take the risk, ta Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bomberman wrote:
chris-red wrote:

You must report it to them, ring the claim line and say you had an accident but you think the lady wants to settle privately so will go down that route unless she starts fobbing you off.

Oh OK. Surely though, that'll go on my record and essentially do the same as me actually claiming?
But no I will, really don't want to take the risk, ta Thumbs Up


Nope, they just log it it won't affect anything and you don't have to put it down on future insurance it is just so they know. Tell them you don't want to make a claim at this point.

Call the woman explain the situation and give her a rough idea of costs see if she still wants to pay.


When I had an accident on one of my bikes it was going to be written off but I asked them not to, instead they paid out £2600 on a bike I paid £2500 a year earlier and let me keep the bike. So if you do go through insurance it may be worth checking if you can do the same.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really sorry to hear that this happened, I can't see you getting your investment back. Sad

Unless you've got fully comprehensive insurance then your insurers are essentially irrelevant until renewal (although you should tell them sooner or later). At most they'll sell your details to an ambulance chaser and try to rent you a bike at £100 a day.

If you want it sorted quickly then either speak to her, or directly to her insurers, making it clear that you have an independent witness.

T.C, arry and/or dragstaar will be able to advise.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

BCF I am dissapoint.




Why has no-one asked if she was fit?
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
BCF I am dissapoint.




Why has no-one asked if she was fit?


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This.

Also unlucky fella, hope it gets sorted without too much loss
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get SMIDSY'd then just sit in the road and ask for an ambulance. Better them 'help you up' than some randoms or even worse - a driver looking to take advantage.

It's even better if you block the road in the process. No-one (including the all-important witnesses) goes anywhere until plod arrives and takes statements. It's very interesting how people suddenly admit things when the police ask them.

Still, good luck getting it sorted.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at my docs, I actually insured it for £600 Thumbs Up So I win! Rolling Eyes
IF I were to force insurance, I'd get this and then be able to get my bike back for (according to my mechanic) 10-20% of that. Assuming the alarming squeal doesn't turn out to be too bad an issue I can ignore broken fairings and be back on the road for I reckon ~£100 (new pump cover). So my bike looks like shit, but continues to live and I have a few hundred quid to fix it back up slowly.
So if I look at it like that, I need her to be giving me at least the amount my insurance would or I'm diddling myself.
Of course, the subframe could now be twisted... Very Happy Seriously though, it could be uneconomic. In which case I go insurance, buy bike back, get +£100 for new scuffed exhaust alone and then all the other serviceable bits (engine only has 24000 miles Crying or Very sad) on eBay...
I'm struggling to see why I should help her out and fuck myself over atm. I can't see her (anyone) happily handing over £600+ quid. Although I will be showing her a quote for considerably more...
Either way, again I lose Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:

It's even better if you block the road in the process. No-one (including the all-important witnesses) goes anywhere until plod arrives and takes statements. It's very interesting how people suddenly admit things when the police ask them.

The road was nicely blocked with her car, thankfully covering me from oncoming traffic. I think my witness came from that side too.

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PostPosted: 14:48 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

was she a butterface? that can easily be resolved by a rear approach. Unless she was scottish and ...you know.. was a tranny
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bomberman wrote:
Looking at my docs, I actually insured it for £600 Thumbs Up So I win! Rolling Eyes


I insured my first 125 at 600, got written off for 1095. Wink
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:

I insured my first 125 at 600, got written off for 1095. Wink

Actually yeah, I just thought that. It's nothing to do with what I insured it for with my insurers, it's what hers will pay out. Crash must have shaken my brains Very Happy
On that note, I told my insurance. Ambulance chasers took about 20 minutes to call Thumbs Down He sounded genuinely surprised when I told him no, I don't want to make a personal injury claim Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinigami wrote:
was she a butterface? that can easily be resolved by a rear approach. Unless she was scottish and ...you know.. was a tranny


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