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MotorbikerTom
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Just had my first off Reply with quote

Well, coming home from sixth form this afternoon i was going around a roundabout. Corsa was on the outside lane as i entered the roundabout, got just even with it just before the exit then she decided to carry on going round the roundabout. No indication either. I pulled some front brake but she was too close, clipped the back corner of the car and came off. Helmet and jacket did their job well. Had jeans on as it was just a day at sixth form so i'm left with a numb bum and road rash up my lower back.

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As you can see the damage isn't too bad, she has taken it onboard that it was her fault. Think i'm just gonna buy the parts rather than claiming, my premium is high enough as it is![/code]
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit dude Sad

Glad you're ok though Thumbs Up


Poor hornet too! Thumbs Down

Hope you get it sorted out all ok.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't presume someone is going to turn or not....you should've gone round the roundabout again (or timed the gap better) as you put yourself in a poor position imo....I think an insurance claim would go 50/50 IF you were lucky. Glad you're ok though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

check your engine casing, bets on it being cracked and pissing oil?
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad your ok Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 21:20 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the engine casing pretty scratched, not leaking or cracked as far as i know.

She said she decided to turn right just at the end to avoid the traffic but she takes full responsibility. Obviously any driver could decide to keep going round the roundabout, but i've never seen it whille riding and wouldn't tip toe around cars at roundabouts just in case they did. Possibly will now though Razz
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotorbikerTom wrote:
yeah the engine casing pretty scratched, not leaking or cracked as far as i know.

She said she decided to turn right just at the end to avoid the traffic but she takes full responsibility. Obviously any driver could decide to keep going round the roundabout, but i've never seen it whille riding and wouldn't tip toe around cars at roundabouts just in case they did. Possibly will now though Razz


Get that in writing.

Poor bike though.

Oh, and GWS. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky mate - have to agreed with FerretFing sadly.

GWS bro!
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky, mate, but you'll be very lucky to win a claim as you're supposed to give way to anyone in the outside lane of a roundabout..

That said, I did win 100% against someone in an almost identical scenario so all is not lost. The biggest difference between your accident and mine is that she hit me rather than vice-versa and that might have been the clincher as I was ahead in the manoeuvre.

Best of luck.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys, i'll let you know what happens when i know. Just hope everything will get sorted out so i can be back on Bumble-Bee!
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything after 12 O'clock should have been in the right hand lane. Hopefully she doesn't change her story and you get your bike sorted. Road Rash sucks though.

Hope you get it sorted soon!
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Her stories already changed. When she got home and spoke with her BF, dad etc it would of become your fault.

Hope you get it all sorted.

Cheers,
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymotorbiker wrote:
Her stories already changed. When she got home and spoke with her BF, dad etc it would of become your fault.

Hope you get it all sorted.

Cheers,
Shaun R



Completely agree, trust no-ones word, glad to hear you're okay, those kinds of accidents annoy me the most, some women just don't know how to use a roundabout, sorry for generalisation, but you can tell the type usually (in no way all women/men), I beep at them everytime, obviously you couldnt do so.


Even with an edit i should stop digging Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymotorbiker wrote:
Her stories already changed. When she got home and spoke with her BF, dad etc it would of become your fault.

Hope you get it all sorted.

Cheers,
Shaun R

Whilst unlikely, not necessarily. The opposition in my recent off has completely admitted fault to their insurers. There's a courtesy sv650 being delivered to my work tomorrow Thumbs Up
Good luck MotorbikerTom Smile
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking at the diagram...

Sure she was in the wrong lane but you should have noticed at the junction before the collision that she didn't exit and thus was continuing in that lane, which should have given you a lot fo time to think about what to do (whether to speed out or slow and let her pass)

right?


but its shit all the same and im sorry bro Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was her fault, and you do not want to claim, you are still paying for it? I friggin' wouldn't be!
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have spoken to her as she was young as well and we spoke to her about not claiming but her paying for my damages. She seems okay about it, but obviously people can totally change their mind at this time so we're going to speak to her again tomorrow.

The point is that she was literally AT the exit of the junction, like a meter away from being out of the roundabout and then she just turned like 90 degrees in front of me. My obs around roundabouts will be more attentive now I've had this off.

Cheers for all the feedback guys Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nexus Icon wrote:
Unlucky, mate, but you'll be very lucky to win a claim as you're supposed to give way to anyone in the outside lane of a roundabout..



Only if they are a cyclist or horserider according to the Highway Code. Confused

This was emphatically NOT the OP's fault (although it may have been avoided with better obs or a more tingly spidey sense perhaps) and those of you who seem to think he would go 50/50 on an insurance claim also need to go read your highway code.

Just in case you cba, section 187 is relevant in this case cos while the Code says for all users keep observing other traffic as it may not be signalling or positioned properly, section 187 says

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* traffic crossing in front of you on the roundabout, especially vehicles intending to leave by the next exit


which, if the OP's diagram is correct, he was about to do and was positioned correctly to do so the car driver should have checked for him and appears to have failed to.

A non-fault claim against her shouldn't affect your own insurance at all so I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to go down that route, if she is a young lass it's unlikely that she will be able to afford to pay you out of her own pocket, also you will need a new helmet at the very least if you hit the deck. Confused
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thats an educated reply Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

I am looking at around £550 including helmet, when i next speak to her we will see where we are going with this incident.
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get in touch with your insurance asap and at least get it logged as a notification. Looks iffy if she suddently decides to not pay up and a week after the incident you contact your insurance..
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd claim. Hornets are known for being instant write offs following an accident as the frame bends in some odd places.

Add in the cost of getting the frame checked... hopefully you have all her details. I'd be ringing my insurers. Roundabout are give way to the right when you are wanting to pull off.. her choosing the wrong lane onto the roundabout then entering your path, its simply her fault, no quibble.

I have PLENTY of non fault claims on my record and none have touched my insurance premium.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Diagram clearly shows he was all over the road weaving like a drunkard. 3/4 of the way around he zigzags on the roundabout.... ha ha Wink

Or is your paint diagram not as smooth as it should be.


IMO I think the car is totally to blame. She obviously was trying to find her junction started coming off then realised it wasn't the right one and turned sharply which ended in a Kablam!
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor Hornet..... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bishbash II wrote:
Poor Hornet..... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad


Sad Sad Sad
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 21 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know! Sad Sad

She'll be on the mend soon!
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