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anthony_r6
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 12 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben-B wrote:
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Number 21

Bike started braking on it's own and I had to rev to keep it moving. Made the mistake of changing up gear to which the brakes became too strong so I signalled to pull in.


Glad you're not too hurt. Any idea what caused it though, seized calliper or something?


Front break seized up from what I can gather. Mark said it was smoking from the caliper just after I came off. By the time it was okay to move the bike again, it was spinning freely.

I was on the verge of rebuilding the calipers as well, got new pistons as well as seals. But you live and learn. oh well!
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 14 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number 22

Thought it would never happen Sad Was having for a nice ride in the sun today when I came across a 2 laned junction. Saw the lights were red so skipped the queue of cars completely by using the turn right lane. As I came up to the car at the front, the lights changed and I began coming across in front of the first car at about 10-15mph . Driver coming the other way, (maybe didn't see me?) swung his car right in front of both lanes. I put on the front brake and killed my speed a bit before I ploughed into the left side of his car and flew onto his bonnet, cracking his windshield and wrecking the side of his car. Got up with pain in my left leg and had a nice helping of shock. No one helped me pick the bike up and get it off the road, but a guy came forward as a witness for my case Thumbs Up

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Bent forks
Cracked side fairings
Scratches everywhere
Subframe twisted

Self:

Confidence down massively
Leg in pain (damage unsure, not broken though)
Generally a bit weak (I'm sure I'll find out more tomorrow morning!)

Right at the start of the sunny period Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number 23

Full thread here

Can't be arsed to click? - I got spammed while filtering. Blame accepted by opponent and I got a friendly witness.

Obligatory paint image*;

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*Not to scale, the lady did not look like trollface, not to be considered a legal document of any kind Very Happy

Damage to the road;

https://i41.tinypic.com/2jb34fr.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

24

Had a nice SMIDSY last Saturday. Going along minding my own business, see a car waiting to pull into a side road. Get about 10 feet from him and suddenly he decides he has enough time or I have somehow vanished and pulls straight out, I plough into the side of him.

Luckily this all happened on my little 50.

Damage to me:
Bruised shoulder and arm
Right wrist a bit twisted
Bruised foot

Damage to bike:
couldn't care less
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 17 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

25

Took the road pitbike to the shops for cutters choice and liquitabs.

thought i'd see if i could back-it-in in the wet......... Cool
low side with a nice spinning slide Embarassed Brick Wall

Once again i'm left thinking that i really shouldn't be allowed to operate vehicles, due to being a total plonker.

Minimal damage all round tho PB laughs it off Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 18 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the guy from the cyclist organisation who got knocked off by a biker get to post on this thread? Wink
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ScotsLass
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PostPosted: 02:26 - 18 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I had a little spill on my Ninja a couple of months ago in the frost (yes, I stupidly took it out when I shouldn't have, so my fault).
I hit ice while breaking lightly behind stopping cars in front of me, and first lost the front wheel, and then the back went to.
I was ok, as I slid on my arse which has plenty of padding, and I had my leathers on (also didn't hit anything).
Sadly my bike didn't fair so well though, as per the pic:
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spill #26

On route to Bowness today, 2 feckin cyclists riding side by side taking up the whole road, went to go round but one of them moved out so i couldn't get past, I slammed my brakes on and clipped his wheel.

Nothing serious, he had a grazed knee and I'm absolutely fine.

Damage: Bent mirror, bent indicator and cracked fairing.

Guys wheel buckled few scrapes.

He asked me to pay for repair but, which i will, but i'm not even sure if its even my fault?

Not paying if it isn't!!
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

NinaMarie wrote:
Spill #26

On route to Bowness today, 2 feckin cyclists riding side by side taking up the whole road, went to go round but one of them moved out so i couldn't get past, I slammed my brakes on and clipped his wheel.

Nothing serious, he had a grazed knee and I'm absolutely fine.

Damage: Bent mirror, bent indicator and cracked fairing.

Guys wheel buckled few scrapes.

He asked me to pay for repair but, which i will, but i'm not even sure if its even my fault?

Not paying if it isn't!!



Ofcourse it's your fault, you never left them
Enough room!

A cyclist is a vunerable road user and should be given plenty of space when passing. It's a piece of piss on a motorcycle to nip round them on the outside lane.
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Llama-Farmer
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

NinaMarie wrote:
Spill #26

On route to Bowness today, 2 feckin cyclists riding side by side taking up the whole road, went to go round but one of them moved out so i couldn't get past, I slammed my brakes on and clipped his wheel.

Nothing serious, he had a grazed knee and I'm absolutely fine.

Damage: Bent mirror, bent indicator and cracked fairing.

Guys wheel buckled few scrapes.

He asked me to pay for repair but, which i will, but i'm not even sure if its even my fault?

Not paying if it isn't!!


Give cyclists as much room as a car... it's in the highway code.

If he had good reason to swerve, to avoid something in the road, you'd still have hit him. Wouldn't have been his fault in that case either.

Fortunately no serious injuries and not too much damage, but hopefully you'll have learnt something from this.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

NinaMarie wrote:
2 feckin cyclists riding side by side taking up the whole road


Was it single track, was one of them going head-to-head with oncoming traffic, or do you mean that they were taking up the whole lane? Confused

Yes, it's annoying when they do that, they're lycra clad twunts, but they do have the right to use as much of the lane as they want. Sounds like you just got impatient and sloppy and rode into the back of one of them, and are lucky it didn't go worse for either of you. If you did that to me, I'd be inclined to summon Plod to the scene and strongly suggesting that you were riding without due care, attention and/or reasonable consideration.

(Wo)man up, pay for your mistake, and next time give us them some room.
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NinaMarie
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
NinaMarie wrote:
2 feckin cyclists riding side by side taking up the whole road


Was it single track, was one of them going head-to-head with oncoming traffic, or do you mean that they were taking up the whole lane? Confused

Yes, it's annoying when they do that, they're lycra clad twunts, but they do have the right to use as much of the lane as they want. Sounds like you just got impatient and sloppy and rode into the back of one of them, and are lucky it didn't go worse for either of you. If you did that to me, I'd be inclined to summon Plod to the scene and strongly suggesting that you were riding without due care, attention and/or reasonable consideration.

(Wo)man up, pay for your mistake, and next time give us them some room.


They took up the lane.

I admit I could of give them more space, but with it being a country lane i was a bit wary about over taking anyway, and panicked a bit when he swerved and just slammed my brakes on.

He was a nice enough guy and i couldn't of said' I'm so sorry' enough.

Just wanted to get my facts straight before i paid up
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

27[b]SMIDSY
Just popping up the shop and I decide that I need to go up the high street.
I approach the junction indicated to go right, to do the turn and started to pull away the whole time I've done this manoeuvre a black aldi A3 is at the other junction I guess he's seen me as I go past him, he then ploughs strait into me.
I will give you one guess what he said ????
You guessed it SMIDSY.
I'm lying on the floor, and i surprised by the amount of people that came to my aid, the ambulance got there in less than 5 mins.
I was then examined as my shoulder felt like it popped in and out and my neck was hurting.
next thing I know is I'm being put in a neck brace and spinal board and blue lighted down to Poole A&E spent the night in there.
I then was discharged feeling soar and pissed off about the whole thing.
He has admitted liability.

Damage to bike.
Dents to fuel tank,
Damage to plastic fitting,
Scuffing to headlight,
Broken battery casing.

Damage to me.
very stiff and soar shoulder,
very stiff whip lash feeling neck,
and a lovely scrape graze down my shin Neutral

My insurance company has told me they will take care of it.
And I should have a courtesy bike here by the morning.


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PostPosted: 07:20 - 26 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

but they do have the right to use as much of the lane as they want.


Highway code states they must ride single file.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 26 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

but they do have the right to use as much of the lane as they want.


Highway code states they must ride single file.

The highway code isnt the law.
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anthony_r6
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 26 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayrton wrote:
The highway code isnt the law.


But it is the standard, and can be used against you in a court of law.
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 26 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

but they do have the right to use as much of the lane as they want.


Highway code states they must ride single file.



they can ride two abreast if they want!

It only says they should NOT must, ride single file on busy or narrow lanes
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 26 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

but they do have the right to use as much of the lane as they want.


Highway code states they must ride single file.


Bikes aren't tested or licensed, as such aren't obliged to read the highway code or understand it.

(Motorbike) Riders and car drivers have to pass a theory test and are required to know the highway code as such.
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

leonski wrote:
27[b]SMIDSY
Just popping up the shop and I decide that I need to go up the high street.
I approach the junction indicated to go right, to do the turn and started to pull away the whole time I've done this manoeuvre a black aldi A3 is at the other junction I guess he's seen me as I go past him, he then ploughs strait into me.
I will give you one guess what he said ????
You guessed it SMIDSY.
I'm lying on the floor, and i surprised by the amount of people that came to my aid, the ambulance got there in less than 5 mins.
I was then examined as my shoulder felt like it popped in and out and my neck was hurting.
next thing I know is I'm being put in a neck brace and spinal board and blue lighted down to Poole A&E spent the night in there.
I then was discharged feeling soar and pissed off about the whole thing.
He has admitted liability.

Damage to bike.
Dents to fuel tank,
Damage to plastic fitting,
Scuffing to headlight,
Broken battery casing.

Damage to me.
very stiff and soar shoulder,
very stiff whip lash feeling neck,
and a lovely scrape graze down my shin Neutral

My insurance company has told me they will take care of it.
And I should have a courtesy bike here by the morning.



Sounds horrible. Await the barrage of no claims calls you'll be getting.

Where abouts in Poole was it? I always find it a bit of a hazard for bikes!
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

but they do have the right to use as much of the lane as they want.


Highway code states they must ride single file.


Highway Code 66 wrote:


While we're in there.

Highway Code 212 - 213 wrote:

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PostPosted: 14:20 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
Ayrton wrote:
The highway code isnt the law.


But it is the standard, and can be used against you in a court of law.
Haha, you lot are idiots.
If this was either one of you's then you'd be shouting "nobhead wasn't riding with due care and attention" - whoever said cyclists aren't obliged to know or understand the Highway code is talking bullshit.

Talking of which, it is "advisory", not law. only the bit's marked "MUST NOT" are considered law by courts, the fact that the careless muppet glanced over his shoulder than swerved kinda figures he's without due care.

See TC's post recently about the drunk who stumbled in the road? - that applies here. Nina isn't in the wrong, and it's not like you can't hear a bike coming down a quiet country lane.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah... she piled into the back of someone mate, it's 99% going to be her fault. Certainly on the evidence she gave here.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

NinaMarie wrote:
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On route to Bowness today, 2 feckin cyclists riding side by side taking up the whole road, went to go round but one of them moved out
My bad, hadn't seen that bit.. Wink

You are probably unaware she did say on FB that the cyclist had glanced over his shoulder and moved out regardless.. from this I was taking the context and posted previous within it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, recollections change.

Say, did you see the bit of the Highway Code above specifically suggesting treating a shoulder check as a warning that a cyclist may be about to pull out? It doesn't say "If a cyclist looks over their shoulder then they've definitely seen you, so go ahead and move where they looked," does it? Why's that then?

Obs fail by both parties, but it could certainly have been avoided by confident use of the other lane. As noted elsewhere, near-miss overtakes by bikes are all too common and usually totally unnecessary.

Heh, "roadcraft overtaking" on Google images throws up this gem from... bikechatforums.

https://www.tcx.org.uk/~river/files/overtaking.png
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

"the other lane", was it not clarified that she was using a single track concrete farm-style lane?

There is so little room to manouvre on typical country lanes that there's passing points for vehicles, rightly suggesting that 2abreast cyclists make it bordering impossible for a motorbike to pass.

Consider that motorcycles aren't quiet.
Consider that roads are notoriously used by vehicles.
Consider id a tractor had tried creeping past, would the driver be looking at a death by dangerous driving charge?

Consider the cyclist had reacted sensibly and stayed within his previous position and not colided with a bike; no fault would have been made so by changing his position without due consideration the biker has reacted to the best of their abilities and minorly clipped a cyclist. what would you road angels have done?

Ben-B wrote:


Bikes aren't tested or licensed, as such aren't obliged to read the highway code or understand it.

(Motorbike) Riders and car drivers have to pass a theory test and are required to know the highway code as such.
A test is irrelevent, there are rules to use on the road and without obeying them you forfeit the right to use the highway(s), irrespective of vehicle.

While I'm here, to remain on topic, Il divert attention to the Show & Tell thread for my injured wreck.
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