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bikerstu
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Bike Racing Reply with quote

Does anyone race??

I want to get into it and have been looking at the track day trophy that MSV do.

Is anyone doing this? any help pointers or advice ??

It looks quite good Smile an ideas?

https://www.biketrackdaytrophy.co.uk/
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: Bike Racing Reply with quote

Read the thread at the top which has 'read this first' in capitals?
From there, you'll find a thread linked called "So you want to start racing huh?".

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PostPosted: 16:54 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey cheers for that Smile

Do you do any racing?
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have done in the past.

Have you done any trackdays yet?
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 27 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I race Cool
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea i have done quite a few Smile

Just got my ACU licnece and looking to do something with it Razz

What did you race? The track day trophy looks quite good for first time racers like me
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikerstu wrote:
Yea i have done quite a few Smile

Just got my ACU licnece and looking to do something with it Razz

What did you race? The track day trophy looks quite good for first time racers like me



Look at Desmodue.
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool will do.

Is it the same sort of thing as the trophy race?
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did rookie 600s, minitwins and 675 cup with BMCRC.

There's nothing to be "afraid of" with the big clubs - and BMCRC (I would guess also Thundersport GB) has excellent marshalling and general safety stuff - glad that when I had a big crash, it was there.
Average standard of riding was higher than some other clubs however.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started off in rookie thousands but changed to mintwins after half a year.
The racing is more based on rider skill in that class rather than wallet size.
Bemsee do a good rookie class.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikerstu wrote:
cool will do.

Is it the same sort of thing as the trophy race?



It's 583cc 2v Ducati's (Monster/SS)

One tyre rule, was Diablos, not sure what it is now. Tyres last ages. No wets, no warmers.

Can get a sorted bike for £1500, they're a friendly bunch, and it's pretty much the cheapest race form I could find.

And I still can't afford it. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha cost was a concern tbh, thats why i liked the MSV setup as i could book one race at a time as and when like
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much all the series allow you to race for a single race.
Even the one make series where you pay up front will generally let you come in for a single race anyway if you've got the bike etc.

I do fancy giving desmo-due a go, if I had the money, time and was up to a skill level to make it reasonable.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 28 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: Bike Racing Reply with quote

bikerstu wrote:
Does anyone race??

I want to get into it and have been looking at the track day trophy that MSV do.

Is anyone doing this? any help pointers or advice ??

It looks quite good Smile an ideas?

https://www.biketrackdaytrophy.co.uk/


I do something that sort of resembles racing.

I looked into the TD trophy and apart from the £50 registration fee, the entry fee for each round id £250. for this you get 1 45 min. race IIRR .. For this reason im not doing it. The cost all depends on what tracks you want to do, what class, and what your budget is... either way, no racing is cheap..
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone race??

I want to get into it and have been looking at the track day trophy that MSV do.

Is anyone doing this? any help pointers or advice ??

It looks quite good Smile an ideas?


Yea I do, well I did until last season, running a rider on my bike(s) now.

You don't have to sign up for a full season with any club as far as I know, you can do as many or as little as you want.

For cheapness the lower classes provide just as much competition and thrills as running a more expensive bike. Look at Bemsee's YPM's, MZ's or Thundersports CB500 for example. Bemsee's rookie Minitwins, as already stated, is also a good starting point, not too expensive and very competitive. The Desmodue series looks pretty good value too.

IMO the bigger clubs safety records are superb, considering what dangers are involved, I've had a fair few offs and the Bemsee officials, marshalls and medical staff are superb without fault

Beware racing becomes addictive, and no form of it could ever be described as cheap! For instance, a front running TZR250 in the YPM's will cost you somewhere near 3 grand, a season if you do all the races could cost up to 8. That's with the engine refreshes, running costs, crash damage ( you will fall off at some point) , spares, transport and general consumables.
The tyre bill on the 600s + can be horrific, and even though you tell yourself you will 'only do a couple', inevitably the bug will bite and you'll want to do every round

But don't let the cost put you off, that's the extreme example, our rider Doug did his rookie year on a fairly ropey TZR and spent a couple of grand having a whale of a time!

Without a doubt it's the best thing I've ever done bikewise and for me no track day even comes close, if you have the urge, give it ago!

With Bemsee we get a qualifying, 2 races on the Saturday. a sunday warm up (normally a couple of laps) and 2 races. Laps are dependant on the length of the track. Believe me the last race on a Sunday afternoon can seem to go on forever!

Entry fees differ for every track but are around the 245 mark
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 05 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a look at Fast Bikes, they have the MSV series in it and a guid to racing.

Looks quite good, had a look and the team list is online too
https://www.biketrackdaytrophy.co.uk/teams.aspx
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikerstu wrote:
Just had a look at Fast Bikes, they have the MSV series in it and a guid to racing.

Looks quite good, had a look and the team list is online too
https://www.biketrackdaytrophy.co.uk/teams.aspx


That looks pretty cool, Cool - but are there many regulations or limits on what bike you actually use? It seems that you can use different makes and models of bikes, which appeals to me more.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want cheap racing look at the CRMC post classic classes. LC's, FZ600's etc.

Or you can do what I do. Race a sidecar!

Best thing to do is visit several different clubs and chat to people.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glider wrote:
Or you can do what I do. Race a sidecar!


Lol, race a sidecar? You guys are nuts!!! :p
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 10 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did pit crew for some mates who were racing in the first msv trackday trophy this year at cadwell, we went on the friday night, did the trackday/practice on the saturday and then the racing was suppose to be on sunday 29th april but it was near torrential rain and eventually the event was cancelled due to sitting water and huge winds.
The build up to the event itself was really relaxed and it was a huge shame it didn't go ahead in the end, i thought about doing it myself earlier this year but was put off thinking that being a race series it was out of my league but to be honest i wish i had registered myself had it not been for the rain because it was a great weekend all in all.

Winning a class is not as hard as it might seem either, one of teams i was to pit for was running a honda SP1 which due to it's age and engine size meant it was in a class that only one other team was competing in so in theory they could have come 1st in their class even if they finished way behind other riders on the day.

I would certainly go for it if you want to try a one off race to see if you like racing.
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