Cornering and braking

[Screw Loose]

Ladies & Gentlemen of BCF,
something which has had me wondering for the last few weeks is that if i accidently enter a corner too fast, and so need to slow down a bit, how do i do so? obviously letting off the throttle is one way, but I was shown on my CBT the dangers of braking whilst turning, so question is, how the hell can i slow myself down without going arse-over??


Thanks,

Veho

[Themightyimp]

[J.M.]

If you accidentally enter a corner too fast, one of the worst things you can do it try to slow down. You'll probably end up making your corner wider and going off.

Best thing to do is lean the bike over more. Unless you're riding the bike to its absolute limits, it'll be able to learn further than you're confident pushing it. Leaning your body forwards on the bike whilst holding a steady corner should also tighten your turn a little bit.

On the other hand, if you need to slow down for a hazard, try and get the bike as upright as you can and use both brakes.
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[Themightyimp]

Good job someone who knows more than me has replied to you.

[lihp]

[recman]

So basically, don't enter a corner too fast?
Too much of anything is bad for you.

[Kal]

[pinkyfloyd]

[_Iain_]

Lean in harder, brake VERY lightly if you must on the rear, and ffs dont stare at that transit/bus on the other side of the white line you're touching!

If its a hazard half the time i've found it easier to roll off the throttle and concentrate on swerving.

Front brake makes you go wide, proper fucks you up. Had a big issue with this my first week or two. apparently makes you fall off too. I'd not advise this!
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[Kal]

[pinkyfloyd]

I'm with Kal here. Rolling on while pushing the bar on the inside forward actually makes the turn tighter. Funny and strange but true.
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[Kal]

[J.M.]

[Themightyimp]

Thanks guys for answering the OP.I have really learnt something tonight.Hopefully i'll now take corners faster with learning how to put into practice what you guys have said.I'm only 3 weeks into a full licence.

[Nexus Icon]

I try and get all the braking and screaming out of the way before having to fully commit to getting round the odd corner that's sprung out of nowhere.

TBH, I stuck to routes I knew well for the first month or so just to avoid the surprise corner syndrome.
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[Themightyimp]

[Rogerborg]

Lean more. If you lowside, you'd have come off anyway if you'd tried braking, and you'll look way cooler doing it.
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[Sako]

the bike will lean waaay more than you will feel comfortable doing just now - which in turn means it will corner way quicker than you will feel comfortable doing too, so the safety margin will always be there for you if you need it, ie. if you think you are going in too hot just focus on your exit point, gently apply more throttle through the turn and hold a slight pressure on the inside bar until the bend starts to open. you will make the bend because the bike can.

[theatty]

When you feel like you're cornering too fast, you're probably not riding too fast at all. When you run wide on a bend this is rarely due to speed, this is usually caused by your brain. Here's what happens:

You go into a bend quite fast, which is nerve racking

You start to panic

You look straight forward, or down at the line/verge in fear of going towards it

Your focus is no longer on where you should be heading, that is the vanishing point of the bend (the furthest point you can see). Your focus is now on where you don't want to be, i.e to the outside of a bend, the verge, curb, hazard line.

You run wide, towards what you're looking at.

Anybody who thinks about it enough will know that if you look at something for long enough, you will be drawn towards it.

The solution is not to slow down (although it does reassure you) but it's to look further. This is crucial in cornering and a massive cause of mistakes.

Hope this helps
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[theatty]

[Alpha-9]

Drop down a gear while using your rear brake for the winning turn
PERFECTLY SAFE

Disclaimer: Not very safe, don't listen to me
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[P.addy]

Look where you want to go...not the hedge I was aiming at

Definitely remember the bike far outweighs your capabilities, you may see a corner that you have been doing for years at 60mph and think I'll try faster, then brick it when you go into it... I did.

[Alpha-9]

lol, noone likes my technique then.

It works! At slower speeds anyway
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[Sako]

[Alpha-9]