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PostPosted: 15:24 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: BMW S1000RR recall Reply with quote

I've done a search and couldn't see a thread (but I may be blind) but if no one has seen already on piston heads:

From BMW USA facebook profile:

"BMW has issued a delivery hold and is recalling 1,414 2012 model year BMW S1000 RR motorcycles to inspect and correct a potential problem with loosening of the connecting rod bolts. As a result of a manufacturing process error, the bolts could loosen and fall out. If this happens, the engine may fail, seize, and/or leak oil. Approximately 900 of the affected motorcycles are still in BMW or dealer inventory and will be inspected and corrected prior to customer delivery. Owners of potentially affected motorcycles will be notified by mail in May advising them to bring their motorcycles to an authorized BMW Motorcycle dealer to have the recall performed. The connecting rod bolts will be replaced and installed with a thread locking agent."
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure it's not only USA specific?
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not according to some of the posts on PH. Some UK owners have beencontacting their dealers to be told the UK customers affected will be contacted in May (when they are ready to do the work / have replacment parts etc).

"The parts will not be in the UK until mid to end of June as i have just been told by the dealer."

According to wiki "All BMW Motorrad's motorcycle production takes place at its plant in Berlin, Germany,[7] although some engines are manufactured in Austria, China, and Taiwan."

Not sure where USA would source it's stock from and if UK sources from the same.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make Best Superbike,

Don't torque up engine bolts properly.

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PostPosted: 16:34 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the owner of a less than 3 week old BMWS1000RR I can tell you the recall is very real.

It is indeed the conrod issue.

Engine strip down, check, apply new nut and application of locktight is required.

Advice I have had is that if there had been a problem with my bike it would show itself in the form of catastrophic failure in the first few miles.

I believe there have been 14 conrod failures worldwide at this time. The majority on bikes used for track/race events.

Fingers crossed my bike seems fine and I'm told I can ride it normally until my recall date in May.

As long as it is fixed and my bike has suffered no damage due to it I can live with it.

I had two recalls on the Blade so its an issue that doesn't unduly concern me.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt want a normal BMW mechanic stripping and rebuilding my engine, no way hose. How much experience do you think they have of the building the S1000RR lump? None? Not until they get yours to practice on. No thankyou muchly!

My local Triumph dealer isnt capable of fitting footrest heel plates as part of the PDI without making a right pigs ear of it and chewing up the brand new allan bolt heads. Give them an engine to strip and build from a brand new £14k bike? Oh no no no no no!
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't they just access them from the sump?
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine its engine out, upside down, sump off, one rods 2 rod bolts out, clean, thread lock, reinstall, move onto the next one until all 4 rods are done then refit sump and refit engine.

But youve paid £14k for BMW to build your bike, not £14k to have a local dealer BMW spanner man who has been brought in for who knows where to rip the engine out, screw around with its internals and sling it back in the frame.

Ive 12 years experience of selling performance car parts. Im not talking neons and stick on filler caps. Im talking bits to build 788bhp Time Attack Pro Imprezas and the like. In that 12 years Ive seen evidence that makes it extremely clear that the factories are far far better at building engines than the vast majority of after market tuners. Bearing in mind that aftermarket tuners build engines day in day out, what chance has a dealer spanner money with most probably zero tuning experience and zero experience of stripping S1000RR engines got? Id be really fucked off if I had my BMW recalled and had to hand it over to said monkey.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
if bmw operate in any similar way to toyota, they'll already have replacement motors ready to fit.


much cheaper to swap the entire engine and scrap the old one than it is to pay someone to fix them.


Hmmmmmmmm, interesting. Not sure whether it would, and there are quite a few variables involved - actual cost of an engine, potential to reuse the parts of swapped and then stripped engines, labour time for the 2 operations, shipping, risk of refailure etc etc. It would be a good bit of analysis work to determine which is actually cheaper. Laughing

Ultimately, if it was a car with such a problem I'd agree with you 100%, as they build car engines in such huge quantities it would be a no brainer. However junking all those specialist S1000R engines really would not appeal, but I think there would also be significant production capacity issues to build all the replacements in the 1st place, as well as keeping up with normal demand.

Badly written, but you get my point, maybe.

I reckon the dealers will do it...
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Main dealer mechanics (approved workshops) are factory trained but to what extent I don't know
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

manufactured in Austria, China, and Taiwan.

this would never have happened if they was made out of scottish granite.

and they not resourced/manufactured from taiwan for a 14000k bike.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
Main dealer mechanics (approved workshops) are factory trained but to what extent I don't know


Not enough to strip and rebuild engines....

I doubt itll be a complete engine strip just for the rod bolts. Sump off, remove, clean, threadlock, reinstall.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 27 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it will be done from taking engine out , then sump off.

Dealers have to have fully factory trained Tec to keep it's dealer agreement.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 27 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

might be a pile of bullshit but there was a guy in our place weeks ago from worcester saying his had stuck the rod through the casing and that was when they discovered the problem.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 27 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornetmike wrote:
I think it will be done from taking engine out , then sump off.

Dealers have to have fully factory trained Tec to keep it's dealer agreement.


'Factory trained' when i was workking at a dealership was a weeks course....
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 28 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

apexperf wrote:
I wouldnt want a normal BMW mechanic stripping and rebuilding my engine, no way hose. How much experience do you think they have of the building the S1000RR lump? None? Not until they get yours to practice on. No thankyou muchly!

My local Triumph dealer isnt capable of fitting footrest heel plates as part of the PDI without making a right pigs ear of it and chewing up the brand new allan bolt heads. Give them an engine to strip and build from a brand new £14k bike? Oh no no no no no!


Very good point there! Me either.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 28 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a positive note - the midrang is a lot better so still considering upgrading.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 28 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'Factory trained' when i was workking at a dealership was a weeks course....


Now its a year with exams for the first level techicain.
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PostPosted: 06:07 - 29 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

S1000RRs are probably shite coz they seem to be benchmarks for the superbikes now.
The likes of the Ducati Paninigale which claims near 200BHP pitched against the BMW but with 100+ Eyetye CCs more to do it.
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PostPosted: 07:36 - 29 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
S1000RRs are probably shite coz they seem to be benchmarks for the superbikes now.
The likes of the Ducati Paninigale which claims near 200BHP pitched against the BMW but with 100+ Eyetye CCs more to do it.
Cnuts Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: 08:22 - 29 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

<LondonBill>No Chinese branded bike has ever had a recall, so they're better made than BMWs. FACT.</LondonBill> Wink
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 29 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't last long enough for a recall.

Snapped frame is "General wear and tear" Wink
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