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simontk
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: I am looking to go pillion, please. Reply with quote

I'll start again.
If anyone IS local to Stockport and fancies a ride out, then you WILL be made more than welcome at mine. Tea or coffee will be provided and with the odd chocy bicy.
As it quite clearly states in the tittle, I am LOOKING to go pillion. However this IS NOT a condition ! And regarding my condition :- I CAN stand and transfer onto a bike, I DO NOT black out OR fall asleep, I simply close my eyes for 2 to 3 seconds ! I have a MATE, yes I DO have some ! Who used to own a ZX9R and regularly take me out. However he has now bought a single seated Ducati. And NOT because he was sick of giving me a pillion ride.

I hope that I ONLY get suitable replies this time ?????????
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PostPosted: 07:30 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBA to see what happened to last one. But again Good luck, hopefully someone will be local enough to you Smile
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take you pillion if you were close enough Thumbs Up I'm on a 125 though Laughing

C'mon guys - The man is only looking for a rideout, and seeing as he can't ride anymore, then why not have him on the back? You get a cuppa out of it, after all? Smile
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PostPosted: 07:47 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 threads for the same thing? Now this is verging on spam...
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: I wonder why ? Reply with quote

I wonder why ?

I hope that I ONLY get suitable replies this time ?????????

It seems not !
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take you Si, but I'm in the SW. Good look tho bud.
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ws4936 wrote:
I'd take you Si, but I'm in the SW. Good look tho bud.


bloody L a normal NON insulting reply !
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

simontk wrote:
ws4936 wrote:
I'd take you Si, but I'm in the SW. Good look tho bud.


bloody L a normal NON insulting reply !


HEY! I didn't think mine was insulting! Crying or Very sad

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simontk
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeDougieDouglas wrote:
I'd take you pillion if you were close enough Thumbs Up I'm on a 125 though Laughing

C'mon guys - The man is only looking for a rideout, and seeing as he can't ride anymore, then why not have him on the back? You get a cuppa out of it, after all? Smile


SORRY it wasn't !
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Re: I wonder why ? Reply with quote

simontk wrote:

I hope that I ONLY get suitable replies this time ?????????

It should be noted that this is a bike 'chat' forum.
You can expect people to discuss all sorts of things in a thread; especially if you make it in General Bike Chat.

I'd suggest you join the appropriate regional group and ask in there. Generally the regional areas are a little 'friendlier'.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

simontk wrote:
ws4936 wrote:
I'd take you Si, but I'm in the SW. Good look tho bud.


bloody L a normal NON insulting reply !


why all the caps? do YOU really need them ALL the TIME?

if someone wants to take you out, they will let you know.
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is getting highly fucking annoying, 1 thread was enough, like said above, this should now be considered spam.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH Simon I think the main issue here is that you are asking people you don't know and more importantly who don't know you, to trust that you will remain safe on the back of their machines and not potentially cause an incident. You have said you struggle to talk, communication both ways is important IMO.

Fair play you may not be an issue, but when we are talking of our own safety and our machines it should be no massive surprise that most are wary. Personally I try to take as few people on with me as possible and my experience with new pillions has never been a particularly good one over the years - it takes time and a few rides to develop a feeling for what the rider is going to do and the pillion to react accordingly. Until then you leave things open for all manner of inconsistent riding.

If I were closer to Stockport I may consider offering you a quick ride but I dont get out your way so good luck!
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok I wont bother
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just like in the original thread.


I think it is selfish of the OP to be honest.

He bangs on about road safety and the dangers of biking yet it's ok to ask someone to take responsibility for him and take him out on the bike for a ride.

Most of us have given a lift to a rubbish pillion. They dont pay attention, they slip all over the seat, they move, they dont watch whats happening up ahead. It's a very difficult ride.

"eyes close totally involuntary, every minute. And I then struggle for a further 5 or 10 seconds 2 re-open them"

IMHO, having someone with that "condition" alone on the back of a bike is far more dangerous than an able bodied rubbish pillion.
Throw the other crippileness movement impairments in to the mix and you have a whole different kettle of fish.

FWIW this thread has gone the same way as every other thread, on every other forum where simon has asked the same question.

The "moral junkies" jump in and want to help him out, want to be all nice etc etc. Then people start to think about the logistics of it and realise it is a bad and dangerous idea.

My only request is that the moral junkies, the ones who are about to hit me up with bad karma, take a minute, re-read this post and think about what i have said.

@Simon, if you are still craving the speed and thrill I would suggest checking out the "experience days" where you get taken round a track in a rally/super/sports/racing car by a professional driver.
If something was to happen you would be on a closed track with medical services to hand and not on a public road with no medical services within 15mins distance.

Peace out
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking "why a bike"?

How about asking on a kit car forum?
You can get a lot of the same sort of road speeds etc as well as being open to the air and often needing to use a helmet really; but people are going to be a good chunk less nervous about it I suspect if you're strapped in with a 6 point harness. Also it doesn't affect the handling and power so much - though still does make a difference.

Me; if I was close to you and hold a suitable bike I probably would consider it anyway; but personally I'm not a fan of taking pillion given the choice and would worry you wouldn't appreciate my riding style, etc.


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PostPosted: 09:59 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well put Cansa.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

simontk wrote:
ok I wont bother


Whats with the attitude? It isnt you who would be 'bothering', it would be whoever might decide to ride over to you so you can ride pillion.

As said its very risky/dangerous and a bit selfish. If you did something by accident which disrupted the rider, causing a crash, you end up in a bad state or worse, the rider then has to live with the guilt and regret. You would be putting you both at risk.
Do you enjoy the mechanics of bikes? You could buy and do up bikes then sell them on as a hobby.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a couple of nice people out there that would probably do it, but the way you respond to people, even the ones who aren't being dicks is fairly arrogant and annoying

Be polite and friendly and more er patient/less defeatist and people will be more happy to help

Reposting wont help you, nor will "ok I wont bother"

BCF is not the place to come for sympathy, you're better off going on britains got talent and spouting a sob story there.

Good luck in getting better. Focus on that instead of getting on sports bikes! Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because his eyes close doesnt mean he cant be a good pillion.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ffs, you said you read and digest all posts before you reply....
You are failing to see the bigger picture shereen, its not just the "eyes closed" thing.

me wrote:
having someone with that "condition" alone on the back of a bike is far more dangerous than an able bodied rubbish pillion.
Throw the other crippileness movement impairments in to the mix and you have a whole different kettle of fish.


But fuck it, go help simon out, and report back.
Whats 4hrs on a bike? nothing is what it is.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to sound harsh but I'm with Cansa on this one. I'm more careful when I take my eldest pillion and I know she can ride pretty well as pillion.

I would be very weary about taking a non abled body pillion as I'm not 100% confident in their ability to move with the bike and to be honest I wouldnt want the extra responsibility of being responsible for should we need to both get off the bike.

That said I do feel for you with regards to your love of bikes and wanting to continue ride in some way. I hope, should the worst happen to me, that I would feel the same way. But asking strangers to take on the responsibility is a bit unfair.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
Just because his eyes close doesnt mean he cant be a good pillion.


True, but how many people are willing to take that risk, knowing that the slightest shift in body position can cause instability and accidents? I will hazard a guess and say (as it has been mentioned that he has been on a number of forums already) none.

My wife has a broken back and although I love the idea of us going out on the bike we rarely do, if she has even a minor accident again it would most likely paralyze her - I don't want that responsibility. We have a daughter and both of us in an accident together could be potentially devastating for her.

That is not to say I am expecting an accident, but experience has taught me that there is always another numpty around the corner and although I am less likely to be riding like a tit with a pillion it does not mean I am infallible.

So, without knowing Simon at all it would be difficult for me personally to take the plunge and offer him a seat on the back of my bike, knowing he struggles to communicate, struggles with his right hand side and occasionally closes his eyes and struggles to open them is just too much for me to accept responsibility for - PLUS - sticking him on the back on my ZX10R would not be the best bike for him TBH.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as with many members of this forum who fit with one of all of my reasons, I would but...

1.) You're too far away.

2.) You come across as a pratt in your posts

3.) I don't take pillions as I'm not insured to.

4.) I don't like taking pillions even when they are experienced and healthy.
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