Tracker

[Irn-Bru]

Does anyone run one? I'm seriously considering one, KTMs must be one of the most stolen brands... I'm not a fan of the cheaper methods, I'd rather invest in a good tracker, since you can swap them out to another bike anyway. Sure my insurance will cover theft but I read some trackers offer you the service of being able to map out your rides, and alert people if you come off etc. plus they're self reliant and just work all the time.

Any suggestions?
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[P.addy]

Not sure what waffles has, but that piece of kit seems VERY tricked out. Follows routes, informs contacts when bike hits the deck, tells you if its been moved at all.

No idea what it is, but if I had a bike like yours I'd have one

[AlexW]

I doubt I'll be of much use for what you're after as I don't really deal with bikes so don't know whats around.

I have one to fit, but I'm going for the cheapo option really, Just tracks if the bike is moved without the ign on, and I can alert them if it is stolen. Genuine Tracker and they have a exclusive contract with the police which means they can track it from their cars.

Whatever you get, report back on it.

[Irn-Bru]

Been reading up for a while today and there are so many..! The ones that offer the features I mentioned in the OP are usually the really expensive ones and some are not transferrable which is no good. MotoTrak seems the best so far but I'm wondering if the £35 ones off ebay + a PAYG sim are the best option. More research shall be done tomorrow I suppose
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[Kingstondavo]

I'd definitely recommend BikeTrac - Love being able to log onto their website any time and check up on my bike - was great peace of mind when on holiday...

Does movement alerts (change in lean angle - taken off the side stand, or rolled backward & forward), Rider down alerts (texts a family member if lean angle >80 degrees. Also does route tracking available at any time.

If the bike moves you get texts and an email instantly, then a call about 2 mins later from the control room asking if everything is ok, top quality service.

I believe they have recovered 100% of stolen bikes this year that have been fitted with it, thankfully havent been involved in that stat tho!
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Current Ride - 2010 Hornet 600

[waffles]

I have BikeTrac, for piece of mind (and tracking good ride routes that I have done!) I can't fault it. After the initial expensive outlay to buy the magical black box it is not too expensive to keep up each year. I get to keep the box and can swap it onto any future bikes.

I think Tracker needs to be activated by a police patrol car, could be wrong there. BikeTrac, however, is permanently active and requires a log in to their website if you want to check the location of your ride. If your bike moves you get sent a text, if it moves any distance you get a phonecall immediately. Oh, if you bike battery is running low it sends a text You can set it up so that any movement without the key sets it off or you can decide on an 'invisible fence' instead.

It's pretty nifty

You can make your own system for less cash, someone on here was talking about wiring a charger for a smart phone into their bike on PAYG.
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Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
Past rides Yamaha XT125X, Triumph TT600, Honda XR250
Current rides Suzuki GSXR 600, Honda MSX125

[Irn-Bru]

Is BikeTrak the same as Mototrak?

How much did you pay for the box?
Did you fit it yourself? Was it easy?
How much do you pay per month/year?

Cheers
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[waffles]

From the brief look I had at the Mototrak page they look fairly similar, at least in regards to you being able to log on and see where your bike is at any time.

When I had mine fitted the box cost me around £300, you can fit them yourself (they have full instructions in the box) but as I was buying my bike from a dealer they offered to do it for me before I picked the bike up. You need to find somewhere to hide the box and run the wires to the battery. Mine is also wired into the ignition but you can leave that bit out and arm/disarm the box via text if you want. Subscriptions are £99.99 for a year (or 27p a day!), £179.99 for two years (25p a day) or £229.99 for three years (21p a day).
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Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
Past rides Yamaha XT125X, Triumph TT600, Honda XR250
Current rides Suzuki GSXR 600, Honda MSX125

[AlexW]

[LeNoir]

I have looked at this as well but still cant make up my mind. I believe the big difference between Traker and Biketrac is:

1. Traker opperates RF radio frequency so the bike can be found in garages and ISO containers, however has no GPS so you cannot see it online

2. Biketrac and others opperate only on GPS so have to have a line of sight to a satellite to text out a location, as soon as it goes in a Van or ISO container you may not get the signal and cant find the bike.
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[Irn-Bru]

I don't think you can transfer Tracker between bikes btw, or maybe I'm mixing them up... some of the popular ones state you can't transfer boxes between bikes, you have to buy a new one each time and subscriptions are non-transferable so if you sold the bike the new owner would have to fork out the fees. Personally I want one that I can swap over as I rarely keep the same bike for more than 2 years.
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[waffles]

BikeTrac can tell me the location of my bike in a brick built, heavy tiled roof with solid metal door garage. It has also told me the location of my bike when in those metal-clad workshops so it's not just line of sight to a satellite.
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Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
Past rides Yamaha XT125X, Triumph TT600, Honda XR250
Current rides Suzuki GSXR 600, Honda MSX125

[LordShaftesbu...]

Biketrac is £300, which is about the same as a Datatool S4 alarm and immobiliser.

Is there anything out there that combines all 3 for the same money?

[Irn-Bru]

[waffles]

If you google it you should be able to find it easily. I'm at work at the moment so don't have the link on my phone! When I get home I can pop the link on here if you still need it
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Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
Past rides Yamaha XT125X, Triumph TT600, Honda XR250
Current rides Suzuki GSXR 600, Honda MSX125

[multijoy]

The advantage of Tracker is the fact that, in London at least, the sensor is fitted routinely to police vehicles - once a unit is activated, any passing police car will be alerted if it's nearby (within 500m, I think) and they'll actively go hunting for it.
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'11 CBF1000A, '99 C90, '98 CB500
silky666: He rode amazingly well considering his bike is the weight of a small van and had slicks on.

[Irn-Bru]

[Irn-Bru]

Got the Bike Trac... £269 for the unit then £229 for a 3-year subscription. £166 per year seems well worth it to me.

edit: found cheaper source
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[LordShaftesbu...]

Do you have an alarm fitted? I'd struggle to find space for both.

[Irn-Bru]

Na I just use a disc lock alarm. Rarely use the bike for commuting, just for fun.
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[Kingstondavo]

[Irn-Bru]

So about this "ignition wire" the unit needs... what wire should that be? Literally the ignition wire or could it be the rear/front light?
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[Irn-Bru]

Never mind, KTMs have "accessory" connectors on the wiring loom, ACC1 is permanent live, and ACC2 is switched, which is what you want for a tracker.

Installed the BikeTrac today, wasn't too hard, although if you DIY apparently it voids the warranty, meh! I'm not paying £85+ for something that simple.
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[Irn-Bru]

Just moved my bike from the front of the house to the backlane and got a text, email and phone call from Road Angel telling me the bike has moved Oops.
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[HJM]

haha good piece of kit that, you can sleep in peace!
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