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PostPosted: 13:23 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: How far would you go without chain lube? Reply with quote

Say you were planning a trip of around 1000 miles, would you need to take chain lube with you or can you get away with that kind of distance if you gave it a good going over before setting off? What's the furthest you would go before wanting to take lube and tools with you?
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just take some chain lube Laughing

Or get a Scottoiler.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be fine, my chain probably gets oiled less than that anyway.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I carry the lube EVERYWHERE !!!
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been on a round trip to Blackpool and back (from Portsmouth)
It was a very last minute decision to go on the bike and the only thing I checked was that I had my wallet and breakdown cover's phone number

My Scottoiler needs topping up every 1000 miles ish and I use the second odometer as a reminder (when its getting close eg 900 miles - top it up and reset odometer to zero)
I set off from home without even looking at the odo or checking the levels or even giving it a second thought that I would be doing close to 600 miles

I hammered it to B'pool and a glance down showed it just tick over to 1003 miles and I wasn't there yet...Ooopsie I think - not brought the filler tube nor the chainsaw oil I have been using

Got to the destination - its dark chain seems fine - not got any slacker and still has a coating of oil (so its possibly not gone that far without oil being dispensed)

In the morning sure enough the oiler reservoir is bone dry and so is the feed line Sad

I bought a small bottle of 10/40 and managed to blag an empty washing up bottle and managed to part fill the oiler (certainly enough to get myself around and back home)
Getting it to flow back down the line and to the chain is drama free and took 2 mins

I vaguely recall someone doing similar and using the extra bottle as a touring add on to get more than 1000 miles between top ups

If you are wanting simplicity to the point you only want to do something once circa every 1000 miles - get a scottoiler
Just remember to keep it filled up Smile (or ghetto a touring add on bottle for peace of mind)

Place it so its levels are visible or remember to set an odometer to show when it needs checking (and think ahead unlike this muppet)

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PostPosted: 22:48 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a school of thought that the only reason for applying lube is to stop surface corrosion.
https://www.rcramer.com/shop/chain_lube.shtml
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lubed my chain in Plymouth, then went to Dover, France, Belgium, Germany, Holland and back again. About 2000 miles, no lube, no problems.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
There is a school of thought that the only reason for applying lube is to stop surface corrosion.
https://www.rcramer.com/shop/chain_lube.shtml


The reasons outlined in that site are the very reason I'm not fussed about oiling my chain so much.

The only thing I see it helping with is the friction between the chain and sprockets.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 26 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ref chain lub.
I've run out on a trip once or twice. Good tip is a can of three in one oil. Can buy it in most garage's, dead cheap. Will get you out of a fix and the nozzle will fit a Scot oiler.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may wear the chain out slightly faster than if you oiled it every 250 miles.

Slightly.

I wouldn't really worry about it. That's two days for some motorcycle couriers, I doubt they oil that often.
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
I lubed my chain in Plymouth, then went to Dover, France, Belgium, Germany, Holland and back again. About 2000 miles, no lube, no problems.


But did the chain need adjusting after that journey at all?

I have only ever run the bike with the scottoiler so I have no back to back comparison to make - but I have never needed to adjust the chains tension - suggesting the pins are not being worn at all and it is doing as advertised

The cost of a new C&S set would be not far off a third the price I paid for the complete bike - the second hand scottoiler cost less than a tank of fuel so was a no brainer as far as I was concerned

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PostPosted: 23:31 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob - a quick point - rather than fannying around with washing up liquid bottles and engine oil, why didn't you just grab some 3in1 oil or even chain wax and just spray it straight onto the chain? Would have done you fine for the 600 miles back from Blackpool.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 28 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain wax is the work of the devil.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Chain wax is the work of the devil.


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PostPosted: 21:56 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got meself a 'Loobman' off the net, £20-ish, just push the 'tit' for a couple of seconds now and again and that works nicely, and as for Castrol Chain Wax frankly I found it crap.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 29 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

robocog wrote:
Just been on a round trip to Blackpool and back (from Portsmouth)
It was a very last minute decision to go on the bike and the only thing I checked was that I had my wallet and breakdown cover's phone number

My Scottoiler needs topping up every 1000 miles ish and I use the second odometer as a reminder (when its getting close eg 900 miles - top it up and reset odometer to zero)
I set off from home without even looking at the odo or checking the levels or even giving it a second thought that I would be doing close to 600 miles

I hammered it to B'pool and a glance down showed it just tick over to 1003 miles and I wasn't there yet...Ooopsie I think - not brought the filler tube nor the chainsaw oil I have been using

Got to the destination - its dark chain seems fine - not got any slacker and still has a coating of oil (so its possibly not gone that far without oil being dispensed)

In the morning sure enough the oiler reservoir is bone dry and so is the feed line Sad

I bought a small bottle of 10/40 and managed to blag an empty washing up bottle and managed to part fill the oiler (certainly enough to get myself around and back home)
Getting it to flow back down the line and to the chain is drama free and took 2 mins

I vaguely recall someone doing similar and using the extra bottle as a touring add on to get more than 1000 miles between top ups

If you are wanting simplicity to the point you only want to do something once circa every 1000 miles - get a scottoiler
Just remember to keep it filled up Smile (or ghetto a touring add on bottle for peace of mind)

Place it so its levels are visible or remember to set an odometer to show when it needs checking (and think ahead unlike this muppet)

Regards
Rob


stop being so anal about it
Just because the scotoiler stop dispensing a few miles ago it doesn't mean the chain is suddenly going to snap. you could easily do another 1000 miles with nothing in the scotoiler and it'd be fine.
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PostPosted: 05:03 - 30 May 2012    Post subject: Re: How far would you go without chain lube? Reply with quote

shooter wrote:
Say you were planning a trip of around 1000 miles, would you need to take chain lube with you or can you get away with that kind of distance if you gave it a good going over before setting off? What's the furthest you would go before wanting to take lube and tools with you?

I take a small (150ml) can of Wurth chain lube on the bike. It's usually in a side pocket of my tank bag when commuting, but it's small enough to fit under the seat of the Bandit... so it's always with me
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 03 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: How far would you go without chain lube? Reply with quote

Dazbo666 wrote:
shooter wrote:
Say you were planning a trip of around 1000 miles, would you need to take chain lube with you or can you get away with that kind of distance if you gave it a good going over before setting off? What's the furthest you would go before wanting to take lube and tools with you?

I take a small (150ml) can of Wurth chain lube on the bike. It's usually in a side pocket of my tank bag when commuting, but it's small enough to fit under the seat of the Bandit... so it's always with me
https://s1.visordown.com/uploads/images/productimage/35019.jpg


When I rode down to Tuscanny on the R1 with a friend on his R6 we shared a small can of lube between us.In the 2850 miles that we rode via the twisties we did not adjust the chains once but lubed them when we stopped after being caught in the rain.

I have the same chain and sprockets even after 21,000,the rear being a hard anodised Renthal alloy,which was installed at 2,250 miles when I bought the bike from a friend.
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