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Falken FK 452s if you can atill get them. On the softer side so durability is down but that translates to a stickier tyre. Should be around your budget
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For the love of god don't buy these, they are shit, they don't last, they are rock solid, they cause understeer and even my tyre fitter who is a Falken dealer has told me they are shit.
They are a very expensive budget tyre, they are not an expensive sports tyre for budget money, the only reason people rate them so highly is because they are cheap, and brand new they are better than the old tyres which you're replacing, placebo effect.
I compared brand new ones of them against brand new Toyo Proxes T1Rs and the Toyos were a million times better and only £5 more, which proved my point of them being expensive budget tyres.
Also having a 528i Tourer, I was in a similar position as they aren't cheap for decent boots on these, after good experiences on my 518 E34 I opted for Kumhos, they are pretty damn good, very good in the wet, very good in the dry, good feedback and they are cheap and they last...On my E34 I got 18k miles out of a set and the grip was constant through their life.
I opted for these, same price as the FK452s and they aren't crap
https://camskill.co.uk/m62b0s293p58696/KUMHO_TYRES_CAR_KUMHO_KH31_ECSTA_HM_KUMHO_KH_31_-_225_55R16_95W_TL_
They also rate higher in everything than the FK452s
https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Kumho/Ecsta-HM-KH31.htm
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Slightly exaggerated, they are not "shit" as even confirmed by your own review sources, 169 vs 8, I think they fare well.
Admittedly they are an older tyre so the newer stuff might be better, but 10k on and they are still gripping very well on my motor.
Your suggestion for the Kumhos though, heard good things as well and I will consider them myself come change time. ____________________ Honda Varadero >> Triumph Speed Four >> Honda CBR1100xx |
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Slightly exaggerated, they are not "shit" as even confirmed by your own review sources, 169 vs 8, I think they fare well.
Admittedly they are an older tyre so the newer stuff might be better, but 10k on and they are still gripping very well on my motor.
Your suggestion for the Kumhos though, heard good things as well and I will consider them myself come change time. |
The Kumhos are excellent, and the same price as the FKs.
I had two sets of wheels, ones with brand new Toyos which were £5 more than the FK452s which were also brand new.
The FKs were numb, no feedback, very little progression, hard and I wore them out very quickly, where as the Toyos lasted twice as long, and were a million times better for £5 more a corner, really is a no brainer.
FKs need to be looked at without the rose tints on, as I said before people have tyres that are old and crap due to lack of tread, and can't remember what they felt like new, they put the FKs on and "OMGLOLZROFL!!!!!111oneontwo!! These are amazing"...when in fact they are just better than the worn out ones you replaced  ____________________ Stinkwheel: You have no right to free speech
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For the love of god don't buy these, they are shit, they don't last, they are rock solid, they cause understeer and even my tyre fitter who is a Falken dealer has told me they are shit.
I opted for Kumhos, they are pretty damn good, very good in the wet, very good in the dry
They also rate higher in everything than the FK452s
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Having run both back to back on my 330d, I couldn't agree less. The 452's are a much, MUCH better tyre than the Kumho, in the wet especially.
As for Falken's not lasting - I'm on 15,000 miles out of my rear set, and they've still got another couple of thousand in them easy, and I'm not easy on them. |
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| arry wrote: | | pits wrote: |
For the love of god don't buy these, they are shit, they don't last, they are rock solid, they cause understeer and even my tyre fitter who is a Falken dealer has told me they are shit.
I opted for Kumhos, they are pretty damn good, very good in the wet, very good in the dry
They also rate higher in everything than the FK452s
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Having run both back to back on my 330d, I couldn't agree less. The 452's are a much, MUCH better tyre than the Kumho, in the wet especially.
As for Falken's not lasting - I'm on 15,000 miles out of my rear set, and they've still got another couple of thousand in them easy, and I'm not easy on them. |
15000 miles and another couple of thousand to go ?, Jeez what the Hell are they made of ?. I've got 7000 out of 020s and thought that I was doing well!.  |
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I've had Kumho Ecsta Sports (i'm guessing Kumho HM are the touring equivalent, so will last longer, be harder) on the front axle of my Civic for the past 2 years. I think they are great tyres.
Lasted 15000 which perhaps isn't the best, but they grip and grip and grip, and then let you know when they are going to let go. I like them.
Will probably buy them again.
I think it's very hard to say "this is a good tyre, this is a shit tyre". We all drive differently, all think we are better drivers than we are, and probably don't drive anywhere near the limits for the most part.
I'm still not convinced you can really feel that much from car tyres, its mostly in your head. Same with bikes. For example, I once crashed on Avon tyres, so to my mind they are shit and don't grip. Will never buy them again, but they may in fact be okay tyres for someone else.
I also bought Firestone tyres, three times in a row because they were on offer, and I think the name sounds cool. No idea how good they were.
For no apparent reasons I like bridgestone, but for car tyres they are too expensive, when Falken, Kumho and Toyo all offer alternatives for not quite two thirds of the price. ____________________ So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976 |
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Tyres seem to work differently on different vehicles. Toyo T1Rs are much better on my MX5 than they were on my 200SX with extra weight and power. Eagle F1s have been good on all my cars but I think they've stopped making them.
Also people's opinions are based on past experience...if they come from a set of Linglongs they'll probably say P6000s are marvellous when in fact they're utterly, utterly shit.
Basically it's hard to gauge...you need to find someone that has used lots of good tyres on the same car to get a worthwhile opinion. Find a BMW forum basically, that's what I did when picking tyres for my 328i.
Oh, but whatever you do, don't put Wanlis on like I had on it when I bought it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLOQVF_yE84
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Or buy them, and have all the thrills of high speed driving within the legal speed limits  ____________________ Honda Varadero >> Triumph Speed Four >> Honda CBR1100xx |
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Less fun than it looks...it got away from you so quick and took so long to stop sliding that you just couldn't carry any corner speed at all. Quite good in the dry but I've always found beemers deathly boring to drive anyway...my MX5 is light years ahead fun wise wet or dry.
This is it with Toyo T1Rs in the rain...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29OTLWnDDQE&list=UUNohROcuyAD85CXJDQVaJ9g&index=2&feature=plcp
Still a handful but much more controllable. They're hopeless track tyres in the dry but not too bad in the wet.
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I once nearly killed a 530d on a wet roundabout. The arse end swung out beautifully but a lot quicker and further than i was expecting. After that i put the tc back on.  |
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I once nearly killed a 530d on a wet roundabout. The arse end swung out beautifully but a lot quicker and further than i was expecting. After that i put the tc back on.  |
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