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PostPosted: 14:26 - 01 Jun 2012    Post subject: Mechanic Woes Reply with quote

Just typed half of this up and somehow managed to press ctrl+w -_-
- Maybe this should be in the workshop, oops

Anyway.
As a lot of you know I had a crash in April, the 12th of April to be exact, It was my fault, the insurance company is paying out to the third party.

I called the local bike mechanic and they agreed to pick up my bike, inspect it and give me a quote for repairs. Ok great. They came on the following monday, the 16th April, and collected my bike.

The frame needed straightening, a fork was forked, and the clocks were smashed, is the major damage, oh, and a dented tank where it fell over after I got it home (additional -_- face required)

They gave me a price of roughly £500 to repair it, which I was happy enough with, (that's a price for stripping the whole thing, straightening it, putting it back together, second hand clocks and tank)

We're now in june and it's still waiting for clocks and a tank, I spoke to the guy over a week ago and said "well if it's taking this long to find second hand parts, just buy new ones, fuck it" basically, to which brought the new total up to allegedly £800 Shocked Shocked

Verging on not worth it, but the wheels are in motion (lol) and I just want my bike back so whatever, i'll throw money at it.

Every time bar once the guy has said he would call me and hasn't, he said i'll find the clocks let you know how much they are and call you to confirm before we order them. Nothing.

So I go into the garage and the guy says the same thign he said last week, still looking for second hand clocks, very rarely come up, to which I was like, I thought we agreed on putting on new parts.

Ok.

So this week, I speak to the guy (seems to be this one guy thats dealing with my bike noone else wants to know. So I spoke to the guy on tuesday (I think) and he says okay mate, gives me the sympathetic eye because I said its been nearly 2 months now and says okay, I can promise you we'll get it rolling and rideable by either thursday or the weekend. "Is that a promise?" I asked. "Yes" He replied. Great I thought.

So the next day I get a voicemail from the guy saying come into the garage (its down the road from where I work)
Great I thought, progress maybe. So I gets there and the guys not even there Rolling Eyes gone to the doctors apparently. Ok fair enough, i'll come in tomorrow then.
I come in the next day, the guys not there, suddenly in london apparently, and the other mechanic guy says something nobbish like "Its in the same state it was yesterday mate" to which I was like "Well the guy promised it'd be ready for the weekend"

I speak to the guy I was dealing with's son who also works there, very pleasant chap, sounds like he knows what hes talking about and seems reliable, he says ok I will find out off my dad whats happening and whether the clock and tank are on there way (as he apparently told them not to order them, so they assumed they had already been ordered) I tell him i'm at work but have an hour between 12 and 1 where I can talk freely. (Today he was meant to call)

No call.
No voice mail, nothing.

So what, i've gotta go in their AGAIN after work today (I can tell they're sick of seeing me from there little comments)
Or just leave them and hope for the best.

But I seriously think if I didn't call or go in all the times I have done, absolutely nothing would get done. I have given them my mobile number on 4 separate occassions, each time they're like "OK give us your number"

I get they have a lot on and it's a popular time but fuck. My bike is mostly labour, it's been 2 months and I just fucking want it back!

I don't know whether to be angry or patient

Rant over -_-"

lol that came out a lot longer than expected

I know most of you are probably thinking £800 Shocked Shocked thats barely worth fixing. I know. Come too far now, do you think i'm being fucked by the mechanic?

I'm not going to name them because i'm not sure whether i'm being unreasonable or they are. I JUST WANT MY BIKE BACK, I HAVE THE MONEY.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 01 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

For less than £800 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-YAMAHA-YBR-125-RED-/330740766563?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d01af9763#ht_794wt_1194

Or take the bike home, don't give them a penny, fix it yourself.

It's easy enough.

Keep phoning breakers to find parts like forks, wheels, clocks, etc. You can reset the mileage on the new clocks to match your real mileage by using a drill to turn the Speedo Sensor thing. Do it forwards not backwards, so that it hits 99999 then rolls back over to 00000, then just carry on slowly until you hit your mileage.

You could even buy a bike with a knackered engine to nab the frame from.

You don't even need clocks to get back on the road though.

I took my bike out the other day with no mudguard, broken ball-end on front brake lever, no bar-ends, no mirrors, no fairings, no indicators (for the first few miles, until I arrived at the bike shop to buy bulbs), no headlight, bent handlebars and the cover for the generator held on with gaffer tape (well, it's only glued on anyway). Click "it's a rat" in my sig, you'll see Wink

Felt bloody good though. Drooling
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 01 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
For less than £800 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-YAMAHA-YBR-125-RED-/330740766563?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d01af9763#ht_794wt_1194

Or take the bike home, don't give them a penny, fix it yourself.

It's easy enough.

Keep phoning breakers to find parts like forks, wheels, clocks, etc. You can reset the mileage on the new clocks to match your real mileage by using a drill to turn the Speedo Sensor thing. Do it forwards not backwards, so that it hits 99999 then rolls back over to 00000, then just carry on slowly until you hit your mileage.

You could even buy a bike with a knackered engine to nab the frame from.

You don't even need clocks to get back on the road though.

I took my bike out the other day with no mudguard, broken ball-end on front brake lever, no bar-ends, no mirrors, no fairings, no indicators (for the first few miles, until I arrived at the bike shop to buy bulbs), no headlight, bent handlebars and the cover for the generator held on with gaffer tape (well, it's only glued on anyway). Click "it's a rat" in my sig, you'll see Wink

Felt bloody good though. Drooling


What the fuuuck that YBR is cheap as shit, high mileage though
Mine only had 3k miles and was a 2009 model which was £1099

Yeah I know, that's what people told me to do initially but I thought, i'll just throw money at it I don't mind, i'll pay for the convenience and have it back on the road fairly quickly wihtout having to fuck around with insurance. Nope hassle hassle hassle.

The thing is theyve already straightened the frame and put it back together and done some other bits, so I can't exactly take it away and not pay them , although I am getting close to saying i'll pay for what they've done so far and take it away. It'd be faster to do it myself, even though i dont have the slightest fuck of an idea what i'm doing.

But that YBR is cheap as shit!

as far as I know you need a working speedo in MPH to legally ride?..but I suppose as long as you dont break the speed limit whats the problem
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 01 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know you also need a mudguard, but the copper didn't stop me! Laughing

If you're concerned about the mileage, you could but that YBR and swap the engines over!

I'd pay and take it as is then. You could probably do the rest yourself.

I have no idea either but I'm managing just fine. Just make sure that you remember how things came off so that you can put them back on! Plenty of information on the internet.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 01 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As far as I know you also need a mudguard, but the copper didn't stop me! Laughing

If you're concerned about the mileage, you could but that YBR and swap the engines over!

I'd pay and take it as is then. You could probably do the rest yourself.

I have no idea either but I'm managing just fine. Just make sure that you remember how things came off so that you can put them back on! Plenty of information on the internet.


I think this is what i'm going to do, I went in again after work and spoke to the guy, he said he hasnt ordered the clocks or the tank ebcause he thinks its a waste of money (I thought it was my decision but ok, he's right really)

So we're waiting on the fork as he straightened it but doesnt think its very safe, so fuck that, new fork coming. Once thats on hes gonna bodge the old clocks back on so it looks like they're there and i'm taking it home

But don't worry, its still gonna cost fucking £500!
"Yeah so the clocks will be £200 i'll add that on the price, okay not getting the clocks now i'll take £150 off the price"

What?!

I've had enough now, I really might just buy that you linked, bargain, but its 2006, mines 2009 and FI, don't know if that is think it became FI in 2007
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 01 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are tanks on ebay starting at £20 ,clocks are £50 but I
highly doubt Yamaha made one off clocks for the YBR .

Try comparing some Yamaha ones on ebay against yours?

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PostPosted: 20:02 - 01 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So they are stripping and rebuilding the bike.
Straightening the frame and fork all for £500.....

So @ £40 a hour thats 12.5 hours labour....

That is not counting the cost of picking the bike up and any parts needed.

No wonder its taking so long, they must be doing on the side when they can fit it in....

I expect your bill to be a lot higher Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 01 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
Alpha, buy the high miler and run it.

If the engine goes pop you've got a spare low mileage engine!

Whatever breaks due to high mileage its all there in the garden, and im more than happy to talk you through taking it to bits and putting it together again

And while you've got it have a look on ebay for some low mileage clocks to improve the resale value Shhh!


That model is 2006 I don't think its fuel injection :siren: or is it?

Where are these elusive tanks? They also need to be for the fuel injection model

They're alright guys really, I think. And yeah they have a lot on so I guess i'm not exactly high priority but then again with it mostly being labour thats pure profit surely
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 02 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have repaired it yourself, is it a YBR? because unless you crashed dead into something at 30+mph i doubt the frame is bent.
Normally the yoke bends which causes the illusion of a damaged frame.

If it was me i'd say fuck them off and DIY, this is how you become a real biker, you fix your fuck ups yourself instead of getting your arse wiped. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 02 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUG wrote:
Should have repaired it yourself, is it a YBR? because unless you crashed dead into something at 30+mph i doubt the frame is bent.
Normally the yoke bends which causes the illusion of a damaged frame.

If it was me i'd say fuck them off and DIY, this is how you become a real biker, you fix your fuck ups yourself instead of getting your arse wiped. Thumbs Up


lol the frame was bent, trust me the steering lock wouldnt even work
it was a hardcore impact which went all into the frame, probably 30 on 30
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 02 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair play, i'll give you £1 for the bike! Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 02 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

no one would fix a bike with crash damage for £500!

You mentioned £500 but that doesn't includes the parts does it?

Sometimes, its just having to let it go and buy another bike or do it yourselves.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 02 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:

They're alright guys really, I think. And yeah they have a lot on so I guess i'm not exactly high priority but then again with it mostly being labour thats pure profit surely


See, that's where I've been going wrong all these years, I didn't realise you only have overheads when there's parts involved.

I'll have to start getting my customers to supply their own, then I'll suddenly be rich beyond the dreams of avarice!

No doubt my next instalment will be from the yacht in the Med.......

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PostPosted: 08:35 - 02 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They sound like proper arseholes, I'd take my custom elsewhere!!!
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm paying them for what they've done so far and am going to sort the clocks and tank myself

Do the clocks have to be the same year? Would a 2010 or 2007 model work? What if it's from the carbed version?

I hear the tank HAS to be the same year

Any recommendations for finding them? Two on ebay but i'm not sure aboutt hem they seem odd
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-YBR125-YBR-125-10-Speedo-Clocks-Instruments-Damaged-/120906391628?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1c2695204c#ht_771wt_952


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-YBR125-ybr-125-2008-INSTRUMENTS-CLOCKS-SPEEDOMETER-TACHO-IDIOT-LIGHTS-/320916914942?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4ab82382fe#ht_953wt_952


The guys are alright, it is what it is
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you make a thread .... many on here have been known to help peeps out for beer and petrol money ... quite a few beers tbf ...

Would of been worth a try, and during these things, you learn aswell ... Idea

Teflon once came to mine to adjust chain ... great job, took 4 hours and i now know how to fix wheely bins, and some shit about top end rebuilds .. Rolling Eyes Smile
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

covdude wrote:
Did you make a thread .... many on here have been known to help peeps out for beer and petrol money ... quite a few beers tbf ...

Would of been worth a try, and during these things, you learn aswell ... Idea

Teflon once came to mine to adjust chain ... great job, took 4 hours and i now know how to fix wheely bins, and some shit about top end rebuilds .. Rolling Eyes Smile


Its true, the least I can do is learn from this Wink
I've bought these clocks https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220667223912?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Seem legit, US company but shipped from london so wont take up to 22 days like the chinese ones Razz
Gonna need a silly MPH sticker for them

After a tank now, question, would a 2011/10 fit a 2009 bike?
As long as the tank is fuel injection (like my ybr) then it should fit no?
I was worrisome about the different design and shape making the tank not be able to fit in properly, or does it HAVE to be a 2009 model as my bike is?

I think this one will work https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-YBR125-YBR-125-black-fuel-injection-petrol-tank-07-08-09-2007-2008-2009-/200751341610?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ebdb6602a#ht_3501wt_1185
title says 2009!

black tank on my blue bike Very Happy
think i'm just gonna buy that tbh Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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…Gonna need a silly MPH sticker for them


Why will you need a MPH sticker? In the US they measure distance in Miles like us, not Km like Europe and Japan.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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…Gonna need a silly MPH sticker for them


Why will you need a MPH sticker? In the US they measure distance in Miles like us, not Km like Europe and Japan.

Because it's a chinese part i'm guessing, look at the picture it's in KMH
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh I see.....

The picture wasn't clear enough on the ebay listing but I have searched on google images for a photo of the speedo and you're right, it is in K/MH.

Have you thought about changing the facia and getting a conversion part to put on the speedo drive cable so that it records in miles as opposed to kilometers as soon as it's fitted?

Only, if you did it later on it would be recording in KM for a while so could get confusing when trying to work out service intervals etc.?

Just a thought!
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just want a rideable bike? Sod that mate just forget the clocks, get the frame straightened and take it home. Buy one of those halfords bicycle speedos they are suprisingly good for a tenner.

Stuff forking out £500 of repairs to a learner bike. And that mechanic is taking the piss, I'd have given him a couple of weeks tops.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You just want a rideable bike? Sod that mate just forget the clocks, get the frame straightened and take it home. Buy one of those halfords bicycle speedos they are suprisingly good for a tenner.

Stuff forking out £500 of repairs to a learner bike. And that mechanic is taking the piss, I'd have given him a couple of weeks tops.


Thanks, he did originally say 2-3 weeks which I was happy with, I think it was all the back and forth about buying parts, I said buy them new he didnt, spoke to him a few days later hes like dont buy new parts its stupid!

Fair enough really, he's right, he could have just said yeah buy parts pay out your ear and i'll charge you the £800 Wink

I've ordered the cheap clocks and tank anyway, came to under £100 (considering i was looking at £250 thats great!)

Is putting the tank on as simple as putting the tank on? Me thinks not as its FI?

Could have a go more self or pay some guy I know to do it who knows bikes like the back of his hand and used to work at arnolds in leicester

Clocks cant be too difficult either I imagine?
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you not just swap over the bits between the tanks if there's any differences between them? Just guessing there as I really don't know anything about it.

What's wrong with your current tank?
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You just want a rideable bike? Sod that mate just forget the clocks, get the frame straightened and take it home. Buy one of those halfords bicycle speedos they are suprisingly good for a tenner.

Stuff forking out £500 of repairs to a learner bike. And that mechanic is taking the piss, I'd have given him a couple of weeks tops.


Thanks, he did originally say 2-3 weeks which I was happy with, I think it was all the back and forth about buying parts, I said buy them new he didnt, spoke to him a few days later hes like dont buy new parts its stupid!

Fair enough really, he's right, he could have just said yeah buy parts pay out your ear and i'll charge you the £800 Wink

I've ordered the cheap clocks and tank anyway, came to under £100 (considering i was looking at £250 thats great!)

Is putting the tank on as simple as putting the tank on? Me thinks not as its FI?

Could have a go more self or pay some guy I know to do it who knows bikes like the back of his hand and used to work at arnolds in leicester

Clocks cant be too difficult either I imagine?



Absolute worst case scenario is you have to weld a nut to the frame. And lets face it. It's like a £5 job to get two nuts welded to hold the tank on.
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