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 Posted: 22:50 - 30 Jun 2012 Post subject: How much have I f**ked up? - buying bike advice |
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Hi all
I recently purchased a private bike and didn't notice before handing over the cash that the bike has 'For race use only' stamped on one of the twin exhausts.
The guy selling the bike didn't mention it, but he did say he removed the Termignoni stickers because he doesn't like stickers.
Contacted the seller with a view to getting some of the cash I paid on top of my bike back but was wondering how much of an issue having a not for road use exhaust is? I see I can cover the engraving up to get it past MOT but that's not going to wash with the old bill, my insurance company or a dealer (when it's time to sell) is it? |
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IIRC the MOT testing guidelines changes a bit back and it's now the examiner who decides if an exhaust is too loud rather than just a stamp on the can.
I'm sure someone will be alone to either verify or refute that, such is the internet
However, I think you will have problems with a "not for road use" on the can - see here - from Dec. 2009 | MCN wrote: | The MoT requirements in respect of exhaust markings did change a couple of years ago, when the requirement for BS or EU-marking on the exhaust silencer was removed.
The tester is required to check the exhaust for security, deterioration and completeness, and with the engine running they will assess the silencer's effectiveness in reducing as far as is reasonable the noise emitted.
If the MoT Inspector then thinks the condition or type of exhaust is such that the noise emitted is clearly in excess of a standard silencer in average condition, or he finds some unacceptable markings such as track use only or not for road use, then the bike will fail.
If you wish to appeal against a refusal to issue a test certificate, then you should ask the tester for an appeal form (VT17) which you would send to the local VOSA office with the required fee no later than 14 working days after the test. |
Plus there is this MOT UK site that says... | MOT UK wrote: | EXHAUST SYSTEM
The decibel level will be assessed at the discretion of the tester, other checks are:
 The exhaust mountings must be secure and not fouling any part of the rear suspension
 The exhaust must not be holed and free from leaks from both joints and box(es)
 Replacements units, other than bikes registered before 01.Jan.1985, must have the BSAU 193 stamp
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Personally I'd just remove the not for road use stamp. It then falls under MOT examiners discretion as no markings given the above. If a policeman asks then it has an MOT so must be acceptable, no? As for insurance if it has no markings how dis you know?
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love my MOT guy, he doesnt car about exhausts or number plates, he just makes sure the bike is as safe as could be
loud cans = people hear you before they see you = safer ____________________ my rides ---->> https://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5051/ktmaudiducati2.jpg |
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I've never had an MOT tester arsey enough to complain about anything that isn't dangerous or obvious. (although all my bikes have always flown through MOTs) If it's not preposterously loud they shouldn't complain. I'd probably tape or sticker over the ILLEGAL AS FUCK markings though.
A copper probably won't think about it having been covered up and there's a tiny possibility of a copper even looking that closely at it tbh. As long as you're not riding about on a ratty deathtrap. ____________________ 57 Huoniao HN125-8 - , 97 Kawasaki GPZ500S -
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What a fanny I can just imagine the email demanding your money back over the stupidest of reasons. A lot of after market cans aren't legal, if you don't like them you shouldn't have bought the bike. ____________________ KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM |
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If you really are that worried then sell the aftermarket cans and buy some standard ones back, you'd probably make money  ____________________ Speedshite 50cc > Honda XR125L > Kawasaki GPZ 500 S > 02 Honda Hornet > 05 Honda CG125 winter hack > 04 Kawasaki ER-5 > 99 Honda Hornet 600 > Kawasaki GPZ 500 S > 99 Honda Hornet 600 > 05 Honda CBR600F > 01 Honda Hornet |
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