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koolio
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 24 Jun 2012    Post subject: Repairing dents in fuel tanks Reply with quote

I have a large dent in the side of my tank and a couple of small dents as if someone tried to knock a hole with a small hammer.

I think this is beyond me for a repair but I was wondering whether or not his is a big deal/expensive thing to deal with? I'm not worried about damaging the paint.

Can any bodyshop deal with this?
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Robby
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 24 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bodyshop can, but its worth having a go yourself.

A bit of health and safety first, that it actually is worth following this time. Before trying anything, make sure the tank is drained of fuel and has been standing empty in an airing cupboard or something for a fuel days, so not even vapours remain. These methods could create a spark.

That said, I have had great fun by playing fuel tank ramjet, waving a match in front of a tank with some vapour left in it. Burns hot and fast, leaves a mark on your hand akin to putting it on a hot frying pan for a second.

2 methods.

1. Traditional - pop it out. Using a bar, find some leverage behind the dent, and apply consistent pressure until it pops out. You may need a selection of bent bars to get the leverage.

2. Might not work. The hot/cold method. Warm the area around the dent with a hairdryer for a few minutes, then spray the dent itself with a can of CO2 (keyboard cleaner) held upside down. The theory is that the sudden change in temperature pulls it taught and pops the dent out. Didn't work for me, even when I tried a blowtorch and freeze and release.

Some people will suggest methods like pressurising it with water, or filling it with water and freezing it so the ice pushes the dent out. This is quite likely to leave you with a split tank at worst, and a rusty tank at best. I detest rusty tanks, having dealt with several of them in my time.
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recman
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 24 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you post a picture of the dent and the location relative to the filler hole?
It could be that the metal has stretched slightly which does pose a problem sometimes.
If this is the case, it may well be worth your while filling the sharper dents rather than lifting them out because by the time you've finished, the metal will be paper thin or it may even have split.
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koolio
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 02 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone, I don't have the bike with me at the moment, the largest dent is square on the side of the tank doesn't look deep but its certainly wide the other two are little dings (both are no where near the filler cap), there's a body shop down the road I think I'll try them first, I would like the extra mileage back!
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 02 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the bike is comman like a bandit you might find another tank cheaper than filler, paint, time and energy.
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doggone
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try the tapping out any dents - 'PDR' .
I was just watching this guy's youtube video for example.
https://www.motorcycledentremoval.co.uk/contact.html
Probably all to easy to make it worse trying yourself.

I think I would rather try this than mucking about with filler, depends how smart the bike is.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the metal creased?

If not, applying heat then cold spray is like black magic.

Have a search on youtube for hot cold dent removal.

They all use upside down air dusters for the cold spray but that's because they are apparently unaware of the existance of plumbers freeze spray.
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
1. Traditional - pop it out. Using a bar, find some leverage behind the dent, and apply consistent pressure until it pops out. You may need a selection of bent bars to get the leverage.


A gear lever from a series 3 landrover, trim down the lever ball so it fits through the fuel hole than many light taps on the outside. Its called planishing.
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karthead
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PostPosted: 07:30 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a method for repairing dinted expansion chambers but I don't know if you'd get any luck with it for your fuel tank. They plug one end of the exhaust, fill the exhaust with water completely, plug the other end, freeze the exhaust and the water expands as it freezes, pushing the dints out. Don't go doing it without a more knowledgeable person saying it's ok, though Wink

Just something for you to consider. Good luck.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

andresoccer10 wrote:
How to bring rust and fail to spannies

That's a great way of splitting an expansion chamber. Did you not read what I told you in that other thread?
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karthead
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
andresoccer10 wrote:
How to bring rust and fail to spannies

That's a great way of splitting an expansion chamber. Did you not read what I told you in that other thread?

I know, that's exactly why I said 'Don't go doing it without a more knowledgeable person saying it's ok' Wink

Part of the reason why I actually wrote this was to see what a wiser person would say about this. So, thank you Smile
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

After a bit of reading, you're not supposed to plug both ends, and don't top it fully with water. On another forum a guy said he plugged both ends, the expansion chamber split when he found it in the freezer next morning! Exclamation
I'll leave it up to experts like nowhere.esylium to tell you what/not to do Razz (I never said to do it, i thought it was worth mentioning in order to get clarification)
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's better to give no advice than bad advice.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
It's better to give no advice than bad advice.

Andre, you really need to take this^ on board.

All you're doing is making yourself look like a prat, and annoying other people.
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karthead
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 10 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:

I could swear that i'd commented simmilar the other day & got a load of gobshite remarks about age & his mums headgasket. Am awaiting the day when someone ends up with a knackered bike...

Doh!
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dogwafter
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 11 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember hearing one from a guy, get an old truck inner-tube and put it in your tank and over inflate it.
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gandy666
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

use filler and spray cans mate..

easiest and cheapest method and you can get a good finish

most haynes manual have a section on how to fill, prime and paint, or there used to be a section on the halfords website somewhere..

its pretty straight forward. hardest thing is finding somewhere wind free to respray it with the cans.

is it metallic or straight colour?

remember and use petrol proof lacquer
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Drake
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

andresoccer10 wrote:
There's a method for repairing dinted expansion chambers but I don't know if you'd get any luck with it for your fuel tank. They plug one end of the exhaust, fill the exhaust with water completely, plug the other end, freeze the exhaust and the water expands as it freezes, pushing the dints out. Don't go doing it without a more knowledgeable person saying it's ok, though Wink

Just something for you to consider. Good luck.

they can hydro form expansion chambers, by welding one end shut and using pressurised water to pop the form out, wouldnt be able to do that to a petrol tank due to vents, also seen it where the chamber is pressurised then heat is applied to soften the steel.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Propane + air + ignition = rapid expansion of gases.

Put some propane in your fuel tank and light it, sorted. Thumbs Up
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